The Avalyn Digest Sun Aug 17, 1997 Volume 2 : Issue 14 There are 23 messages totalling 622 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. any news?? 2. Catch the Breeze @ e.p. Artwork (5) 3. Sorry ,I have a correction to make about new member from L.A. 4. Crescent, Jessamine, Labradford, Magnog, Movietone (2) 5. (verve) REAL MBV NEWS FROM NME- HOOOOORAY (2) 6. extra S/T 12" & In Mind Remixes 12" 7. New member from L.A. (guitar stuff and bootlegs) 8. others? 9. field mice auction (and others) 10. Locust "Morning Light" 11. Slowdive Video needed. 12. lsd do mojave 13. Flying Saucer Attack 14. bootlegs 15. About a couple of songs.. 16. Beach Song/Take Me Down 17. Secert Shine - Unreleased 7" sale --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 22:23:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Baker Subject: any news?? hey there.... i used to be on this list for quite a while... but now i am not... could you give me the low down on any news pertaining to the upcoming mojave releases.... cheers. --------------------------------- Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 15:01:10 -0400 (EDT) From: ALTONBARNS@aol.com Subject: Catch the Breeze @ e.p. Artwork Hi!, Is it me or are there two different mixes of `Catch the Breeze`?? The version on the `Just for a Day` album differs to the version found on `Best of Independant 20`. I have listened over and over again and am sure that the `BOI20` version has a different vocal and guitar mix! Neils vocals on the verses seem different and when Rachel comes in on the chorus, she seems more prominant, it`s a better version! Also the `Skybound`TM guitairs at the end sound different. Is this the single version? Can anybody shed any light? Also, what about the artwork on the early e.ps...wow! It sort of completes the sound of Slowdive. Does anyone know what the image is on `Slowdive` and `Morningrise`? Or where the photographs were taken? Regards Tony -------------------------------- Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 15:55:38 -0700 From: Joseph Moreno Subject: Sorry ,I have a correction to make about new member from L.A. I mistakenly mistyped my e-mail. My correct e-mail is: jjmoreno@ucla.edu Hope to hear from all of you out there about the topics I spoke of last... I apoligize to the moderator of this list for my booboo. -------------------------------- Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 02:03:54 -0700 From: Kage Subject: Re: Crescent, Jessamine, Labradford, Magnog, Movietone >> You out there who's got records by these bands! >> Jessamine, Crescent, Labradford, Magnog, Movietone. >> Please mail me all info on the record (year, tracknames, >> cataloguenumbers, titles........).Also tourdates and news and info >> bout the bands. >> Thank you! > > I have the Jessamine album and both of the Labradford albums. I also have > the Movietone album. I'll try to post all the info tonight or tomorrow > sometime. > > BTW...the new Labradford album is GREAT!!! Hi there! I just wondered what kind of music those bands play. M. Mattsson -------------------------------- Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 20:38:11 -0400 (EDT) From: FlowyrTear@aol.com Subject: Re: (verve) REAL MBV NEWS FROM NME- HOOOOORAY In a message dated 97-07-23 13:05:46 EDT, Moonstar9@aol.com writes: << NME that, at long last, the band are ready to release new material >> thank god~~~~i thought he overdosed or something hanging around too much with sonic boom. ------------------------------- Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 20:39:26 -0400 (EDT) From: FlowyrTear@aol.com Subject: Re: (verve) REAL MBV NEWS FROM NME- HOOOOORAY In a message dated 97-07-23 13:05:46 EDT, Moonstar9@aol.com writes: << But we've definitely got enough for an EP. >> i would hope so by now. ------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 09:00:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Claire De Leon! Subject: extra S/T 12" & In Mind Remixes 12" Hello everyone, Well, I have been searching for the _Slowdive_ e.p. for YEARS now, and finally came across TWO copies of it! I wasn't sure if I would get both, but indeed that has happened. So obviously one of the copies is up for sale. But in an auction-type please - PLEASE don't ask me to quote a price! YOU must do so! :) I would like to pay the bills this month...(sorry to anyone this offends) Also, I have the In Mind remixes on CD, but also just came across the same on 12" - if someone wants to buy the 12" version, please let me know about that also. Thanks! Daniel ---------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 20:45:20 -0700 From: M Svensson Subject: Re: Crescent, Jessamine, Labradford, Magnog, Movietone >>> You out there who's got records by these bands! >>> Jessamine, Crescent, Labradford, Magnog, Movietone. >> >> I have the Jessamine album and both of the Labradford albums. I also have >> the Movietone album. I'll try to post all the info tonight or tomorrow >> sometime. >> >> BTW...the new Labradford album is GREAT!!! > > Hi there! > I just wondered what kind of music those bands play. Space rock, like Flying saucer attack..... ------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:41:51 -0500 (CDT) From: ntvan@audumla.mdacc.tmc.edu (Van T. Nguyen) Subject: Re: Catch the Breeze @ e.p. Artwork Actually, I don't think the album version is the same as the EP version for Catch the Breeze. One sounds remixed/tweaked slightly so that the high background vocal is slightly louder in the mix. Anyone?? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 17:59:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Primarygrl@aol.com Subject: Re: New member from L.A. (guitar stuff and bootlegs) In a message dated 97-07-29 08:28:06 EDT, you write: << One last thing, I'm sure alot of you have heard both Avalyn I and II. How are they different? Are they different songs entirely or are they different versions or what??? Hope to hear from all you out there! Joseph Moreno: jjmoreno@ucle.edu >> Avalyn I and II are the same beautifully symphonic songs, just different versions... They differ from one another in that Avalyn I contains rachel's vocals and II has none. PG ------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 06:59:06 PDT From: "michaelnicki barrett" Subject: Re: Catch the Breeze @ e.p. Artwork > Is it me or are there two different mixes of `Catch the Breeze`?? The > version on the `Just for a Day` album differs to the version found on > `Best of Independant 20`. I have listened over and over again and am > sure that the `BOI20` version has a different vocal and guitar mix! > Neils vocals on the verses seem different and when Rachel comes in on > the chorus, she seems more prominant, it`s a better version! Also the > `Skybound`TM guitairs at the end sound different. Is this the single > version? Can anybody shed any light? > > Also, what about the artwork on the early e.ps...wow! It sort of > completes the sound of Slowdive. Does anyone know what the image > is on `Slowdive` and `Morningrise`? Or where the photographs were > taken? > > Regards Tony Hi tony I'm pretty shure that mornigrise is a pic of what looks like cliffs?? Hope it's a help Michael -------------------------------- Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:48:51 -0700 From: sand-in-your-pants Subject: others? Please excuse my naivete, but I have been a slowdive follower only since this year. I have just finished getting the three full-length CDs, which I love. What's next? I don't know what there is out there. I've heard of blue day, what is it? A collection of all singles? b-sides? neither? Are there other gems which I have overlooked? suggestions welcomed. sfg@poboxes.com --------------------------------- Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:10:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Claire De Leon! Subject: field mice auction (and others) Crossposting, crossposting....sorry kiddies. But here's a first list of probably two or three to come....old Danno's broke...:( Let me know if anyone is interested in something. Sorry for doing this in a public forum... Items for Auction _______________________________________________ Field Mice-Coastal LP Field Mice-So Said Kay 10" Field Mice-Missing the Moon 12" Chapterhouse-Pearl 7" V/A-Bristol vs. L.A. 7" (with Amp, 3rd Eye Foundation, Summer Hits, ) Brighter-Laurel 10" Broadcast-Booklovers Duophonic 12" Summer hits-Orgasm 7" (forgot the title!) Teenbeat 100 7" (10 songs...10 minutes) Stereolab-Laminations promo CD Well, that's all I can think of for now. Please be kind to my records, should you acquire them - they are very dear to me. *sniff!* I am no longer a subscriber to the list, so personal e-mails only will get you a response. There may also be another list soon when I can go through my collection again..... Thanks, Daniel (eleven@grove.ufl.edu) --------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 17:18:28 +1000 (EST) From: Anthony <932228@bud.cc.swin.edu.au> Subject: Re: Catch the Breeze @ e.p. Artwork >Is it me or are there two different mixes of `Catch the Breeze`?? The version >on the `Just for a Day` album differs to the version found on `Best of >Independant 20`. I have listened over and over again and am sure that the >`BOI20` version has a different vocal and guitar mix! Neils vocals on the >verses seem different and when Rachel comes in on the chorus, she seems more >prominant, it`s a better version! Also the `Skybound`TM guitairs at the end >sound different. Is this the single version? Can anybody shed any light? I stand by you and definately agree that there are two different mixes of Catch The Breeze. The one on the EP has the backing vocals (the higher pithed line) up louder, and overall has a fuller sound (I prefer that mix). >Also, what about the artwork on the early e.ps...wow! It sort of completes >the sound of Slowdive. Does anyone know what the image is on `Slowdive` and >`Morningrise`? Or where the photographs were taken? For some time I have thought that the Morningrise picture is a close up, possibly from under a microscope of some kind of metal or organic substance. It looks like sandstone. Has anyone noticed that the original pressing of the Morningrise EP has a slight colour difference from thaat of the one that was recently re-released? Anthony. 932228@bud.swin.edu.au ----------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 19:01:52 -0500 From: "Igor V. Boronenkov" Subject: Locust "Morning Light" Hi, gang this album is mentioned here for two, no, three reasons: Neil sings on one of the songs, a man behind Locust (Mark vanHoen) is a long-time Seefeel engineer and collaborator, Seefeel-Slowdive connection is well known, three-it's a very beautiful piece of music. For starters, short teaser from riouxs@aol.com: ***rioux's recommendation of the month*** LOCUST - Morning light CD (apollo) $16.90 This has been described as This Mortal Coil meets Massive Attack - and the comparisons could not be more spot on. At times the mood hits the rare aire of the Blue Nile's _hats_. This is a solid absolutely beautiful record composed by Mark Van Hoen and features vocals by Annie Williams, Zoe Niblett, & Neil Halstead. earlier Locust material is a more dark claustrophobic high-quality intellegent techno. Lately he started collaborating with various vocalists (mostly female) with the result being more romantic, atmospheric string-laden compositions. Sure as hell sounds like This Mortal Coil, right? Well, the sound of the record is less "4AD", more trip-hoppy, but in the mood, not the techniques. Soulful vocal tracks are mixed with rather minimal ghostly instrumentals, reminiscent of later Bark Psychosis, Talk Talk and "Pygmalion". Neil's singing is OK, but doesn't stand out much as most of the songs are as great. Conveniently included is material from Annie Williams earlier "Folie" EP on Apollo. for dreampoppres I would remind that the new Radiohead is great, new Spiritualized album is less droney, more Boo Radleyish, and new Catherine Wheel (more ballad-inclined) is coming out very soon. salute Boroda ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 11:56:02 -0400 From: Gordon Brown Subject: Slowdive Video needed. Hello, Does anyone have any Slowdive or Mojave 3 videos they would like to trade. I desperately need the promo vids. I have the following videos I can tape in exchange: Poetic Frenzy ex 8 min Catch the Breeze ex 5 min (this is the US version without the band, just scenery scenes--pretty dull) Paard Van Troje, Den Haag 23.02.92 vg- 55 I also have most of the Stereolab videos, as well as some TV performances. All the My Bloody Valentine videos and a MBV concert: ULU, London 16.02.89 vg- 60 I use NTSC. Hopefully someone out there is interested in getting something going. See ya, Gord ------------------------------- Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 19:39:22 +0600 From: susan marie mcgowan Subject: lsd do mojave hello everyone... just thought that this little chunklet of info might be of interest -- midway through love spirals downwards' set on friday night at the projekt fest in chicago, they did a cover of mojave's 'candle song'...theirs was quite an excellent rendition, with suzanne perry's incredible vocals and ryan lum's quiet acoustic strumming...once ryan started playing, suzanne prefaced it with a comment something like, "you guys know who this is, right?", though i would think that it must have gone almost entirely unnoticed and unappreciated by the majority of the audience, with the exception of myself, fellow fest-goers bryan and mike, and the one guy down in front who yelled 'mercy'! at the end! just thought that i'd pass that along... susan. p.s....and no, i didn't record it, very unfortunately... :( -------------------------------- Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 18:36:47 +1000 From: lhucvjm@LUSTA.LATROBE.EDU.AU Subject: Flying Saucer Attack I couldn't help myself. I'm a big fan of Flying Saucer Attack and I thought I would just add some more items to "(sara's)" (15/7/97) list. If you like Slowdive, particularly "Pygmalion", then chances are you'll definitely like F.S.A. Readily available in addition to "Further" and "Chorus" and that live C.D. are: "Flying Saucer Attack" (self titled) My Dreaming Hill A Silent Tide Moonset Make Me Dream Wish Popol Vuh 2 The Drowners * Still Popol Vuh 1 This Season Is Ours (Running time: 50:18) "Distance" Oceans Standing Stone Crystal Shade Instrumental Wish Distance November Mist Soaring High Oceans 2 (R.T.: a bit over 40 minutes) "Outdoor Miner/Psychic Driving" Outdoor Miner ** Psychic Driving Land Beyond The Sun Everywhere Was Everything (R.T.: about 15 mins.) "Sally Free and Easy e.p." Sally Free And Easy *** Three Seas (R.T.: about 15 mins. the title track goes for 7 mins.) "Flying Saucer Attack*Roy Montgomery" Goodbye ...And Goodbye The Whole Day (R.T.:about 23 mins. (I think)) The last single listed is quite different from any of their other stuff. Well not really different, just more extreme. Much more experimental and Krautrock-ish. But it's still excellent. But then I'm biased because I"m also a big fan of Krautrock! Footnotes: * This is a cover of Suede's first single. It's very good. It's also rather hillarious hearing Dave Pierce's (F.S.A. vocalist) impersonation of Brett Anderson! ** This is a cover of a Wire single. It's very short. But the single is worth buying just for "Psychic Driving". *** This is a cover of a Pentangle song. It's excellent, although not what the first time F.S.A. listener should be listening to. ------------------------------- Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 23:40:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Flwr2hide@aol.com Subject: bootlegs where do you know of that i can find these bootlegs of slowdive shows and are they any good cheers steve -------------------------------- Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 14:53:23 -0500 (CDT) From: "(sara)" Subject: Re: Catch the Breeze @ e.p. Artwork i don't know if anyones replied to this yet-i'm so behind in my mail...but here's my $.02 i don't know what ep you're talking about. but the version on holding our breath(i don't think you would call this an ep, but maybe i'm wrong?) is definitely different. there is this strange harmonizing that i don't think is there in the album.. anyway, its very good (of course!) sara ...Actually, I don't think the album version is the same as the EP version ...for Catch the Breeze. One sounds remixed/tweaked slightly so that the ...high background vocal is slightly louder in the mix. Anyone?? ------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 10:20:37 -0400 From: rboge@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: About a couple of songs.. > Hi there... > I want to know if anyone in this list have some concerts of Slowdive > from May 1992. I have a problem with some tracklists and I want to > know if anybody knows the complete tracklist of 17, 18, and 19 > May/1992 concerts. There are two songs in those concerts that I can't > recognize.. I think they're inedit songs... thanks for all, any > information will be cool... they're all similar 5-19 slowdive spanish air bleed catch the breeze * morningrise she calls avalyn 5-18 slowdive spanish air bleed catch the breeze * ...I'm still listening but the set lists are very close. * = at the moment I can't remember the name of this song. ----------------------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 15:17:05 -0500 (CDT) From: ntvan@audumla.mdacc.tmc.edu (Van T. Nguyen) Subject: Beach Song/Take Me Down Does anyone know out there if there's a copy of Beach Song/ Take Me Down on CD? Someone out there must have cut a CD-R with these songs... onnow: Broadcast - Work and Non-Work ----------------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 15:38:40 -0400 (EDT) From: ALTONBARNS@aol.com Subject: Secert Shine - Unreleased 7" sale Hello. Do you remember Secret Shine (of Sarah Records fame) that brought you the beautiful shoegazy `Loveblind` and many other delights. Well it is possible to order a 7" called `Wish Coming True` b/w `Wasted Away` which was never released!!!! (the B side is excellent) The 7" can be purchased from:- Shine Mansion 10 Cossham Road St. George Bristol England BS5 8DL The cost is (pounds)2-50 (inc p&p) for the UK (pounds)3-00 (inc p&p) for the rest of the world PLEASE MAKE CHEQUES PAYABLE TO TIM MORRIS Although Secret Shine have officially called it a day, they recorded many `shoegazy` tracks since.Their later work mixed skybound harmonies of a male and female vocalist backed with reverb guitairs. While they are best known for `Loveblind` the track `Take Me Slowly` `Greater Than God` e.p. and the album `Untouched` are highly recommended. The main members of the band are now in a new band called Junkie who have released a 5 track CD single which is available at the above address at #4-50UK #5 R.O.W. Secret Shine Discography After Years Sarah 53 Sep 1991 Unbearable Turn07 Sep 1991 Take Me Slowly (On the `Birth of the True Compilation - Sugarfrost Records) Frosty2 Apr 1992 Ephemeral Sarah 61 Apr 1992 Loveblind Sarah 71CD Mar 1993 Untouched - featuring Suck Me Down/ Sarah 615CD Apr 1993 Temporal/Spellbound/So Close I Come/ Into The Ether/Toward the Sky/Underworld/ Sun Warmed Water Greater Than God E.P. Sarah 615CD May 1994 Each To Each Other Swirl01 Flexi May 1994 Wish Coming True/Wasted Away SpoilSSS001 Unreleased Regards Antony -------------------------------- End of The Avalyn Digest #2.14 ****************************** * To subscribe/unsubscribe to the Digest version of the list, send your request (including the word "DIGEST") to: avalyn-request@lysator.liu.se * To subscribe/unsubscribe to the Live version of the list, send your request to: avalyn-request@lysator.liu.se * The maintainer of both mailing lists is chief@lysator.liu.se, and can also be reached at owner-avalyn@lysator.liu.se * All messages to the Live mailing list should be sent to: avalyn@lysator.liu.se * The digests can also be found in in ASCII format at ftp.lysator.liu.se /pub/texts/uxu/avalyn and in HTML format at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/avalyn.html.