From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V99 #52 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume99/52 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 52 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L] Common People/Charisma Re: [B7L] Limericks, Continued [B7L] B7- new book? Re: [B7L] Limericks, Continued [B7L] Limericks Re: [B7L] B7- new book? Re: [B7L] B7- new book? Re: [B7L] Common People/Charisma Re: [B7L] Limericks [B7L] More stories for me to read Re: [B7L] Common People/Charisma [B7L] Re New Book Re: [B7L] B7- new book? RE: [B7L] Flat Robin continues... Re: [B7L] B7- new book? [B7L] [B7L] B7 last posting ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 12:35:00 -0700 From: Helen Krummenacker To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Common People/Charisma Message-ID: <36B9F665.3B82@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pat Patera wrote: > > Interestingly, I've only heard men say they dislike him. > Perhaps they find him a threat, all decked out in black leather, studded > with hormones and drenched in charisma. We often dislike those we fear > or envy. Or they are simply immune to the hormones and charisma. And yes, I think there is the 'threat' factor. Avon was always competitive to be "alpha male" of the group (and I don't mean that in a Feddy grades sense). Challenging Blake regularly, keeping Vila in his place (although quietly enjoying it whenever Vila _did_ get uppity). The men know that if they knew Avon, he would act the same-- sniping at them verbally, criticising, etc. Whereas Avon goes pretty easy on his female colleagues. It's the testosterone facter,' guys gotta jostle each other, but can get along with women'. (not always true of course, Vila's so loveable, in part, because he doesn't try to be top dog). So men may see Avon as a competitor, and dislike him on those grounds. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 12:54:11 -0700 From: Helen Krummenacker To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Limericks, Continued Message-ID: <36B9FAE3.69A1@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Penny Dreadful wrote: > > (What's really irksome is I can't think of anything that rhymes with > 'Travis' except 'myasthaenia gravis', which I haven't been able to work > into a limerick...yet...) *hem* A Feddie named Travis, demanded Blake's followers killed and disbanded. Blake shot him twice, The results, pretty nice, Made Travis just one hairy-handed. *snicker* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:46:07 -0000 From: "Debra Collard" To: "B7L" Subject: [B7L] B7- new book? Message-ID: <00d401be507f$cf76f160$5f63883e@whisson1globalnet.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I was browsing the on line bookshops and came across a 'new' (to me anyway) B7 book entitled 'History and Critical Anaylsis of Blakes 7 the 1978-81 British.....' It is apparently to be published in the US in August 1999 at a sterling equivalent of £34.65 Debra The bookshop I was bowsing is at http://www.bookshop.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 13:36:11 PST From: "Penny Dreadful" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Limericks, Continued Message-ID: <19990204213612.27686.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Avona pruriently penned: >Made Travis just one hairy-handed. Ahaha! All right, you gutter-minded lyricists, go peddle your filth on The Naughty List and leave us mature high-minded types to talk politics and philosophy...oh, wait a minute, I'm *one* of the gutter-minded lyricists. Well in that case, A comely young rebel named Jenna Used plenty of bleach but no henna To try and catch Blake But she saw her mistake When she saw the way he looked at Zen -- ah... (All together now): Hooray for the Federation! Birth of a (Terry) Nation! Their terrible aim Keeps us in the game Till the day of our our cancellation! --Penny "Shakes-Beer" Dreadful ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:43:08 +1100 (EST) From: kat@welkin.apana.org.au (Kathryn Andersen) To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se (Blake's 7 list) Subject: [B7L] Limericks Message-Id: Content-Type: text Okay, I can't resist. There was a fine rebel called Roj Blake Who once made a terrible mis-take Avon he decieved And successfully peeved So he died at the hand of a fruitcake. (not that I think Avon was a fruitcake really, it just made a good rhyme.) -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen / \ | http://home.connexus.net.au/~kat \_.--.*/ | #include "standard/disclaimer.h" v | ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:20:33 -0000 From: "Alison Page" To: "B7L" Subject: Re: [B7L] B7- new book? Message-ID: <001801be5094$fdf31220$ca8edec2@alisonpage.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Debra said: >> I was browsing the on line bookshops and came across a 'new' (to me anyway) B7 book entitled 'History and Critical Anaylsis of Blakes 7 the 1978-81 British.....'<< This sounds interesting, does anyone else know anything about it? Did you notice the author Debra? £35 is a fair amount of dosh though isn't it? We'll have to make sure someone gets it and reviews it when it comes out. Alison ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 18:43:13 EST From: Bizarro7@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] B7- new book? Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit More specifically, at: http://www.bookshop.co.uk/ser/serdsp.asp?shop=1&isbn=0786406003&DB=220 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:43:24 +0000 From: Julia Jones To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Common People/Charisma Message-ID: In message <36B9E02A.5F36@geocities.com>, Pat Patera writes >> But Avon is "a bratty whiner", "a arrogant prick", etc. >And many list members have remarked that as children, they didn't like >this character. On the other hand, I liked him when I was a child *because* he was such a bastard. I couldn't understand why Blake didn't toss him off the ship - but it made for such fascinating interactions (and get your minds out of the gutter, I'm talking about when I wasn't old enough to notice such things). Besides, being a horrible child, I loved the idea of being able to behave like that and get away with it. -- Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:39:56 +0000 From: Julia Jones To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Limericks Message-ID: <7nrJxxAsOhu2EwEZ@jajones.demon.co.uk> In message <36B8C490.1634@jps.net>, Helen Krummenacker writes >(would these be great fanzine-fillers or what?) Yes. Lots of zines out there looking for fillers. The Other List has a zine of its very own, edited by yours truly. If you don't mind being seen in the company of smut... -- Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 20:53:19 PST From: "Joanne MacQueen" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] More stories for me to read Message-ID: <19990205045319.28485.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Just a quick note of thanks for Judith. I spotted the link in Judith's Online Fiction section to Francis Teagle's site, and I printed off the stories by Vega. I must confess that I've not read them yet (I've a two hour train journey this evening, let alone the weekend and a two hour train journey back to Sydney on Sunday, so I've plenty of time ), but I'm ready to take Judith's word that Vega captures Jenna's character quite well. Thanks again. Regards Joanne ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 11:08:38 +0000 (GMT) From: Iain Coleman To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Common People/Charisma Message-Id: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Helen Krummenacker wrote: > Pat Patera wrote: > > > > Interestingly, I've only heard men say they dislike him. > > Perhaps they find him a threat, all decked out in black leather, studded > > with hormones and drenched in charisma. We often dislike those we fear > > or envy. > Or they are simply immune to the hormones and charisma. That's probably part of it. And yes, I think > there is the 'threat' factor. Avon was always competitive to be "alpha > male" of the group (and I don't mean that in a Feddy grades sense). > Challenging Blake regularly, keeping Vila in his place (although quietly > enjoying it whenever Vila _did_ get uppity). The men know that if they > knew Avon, he would act the same-- sniping at them verbally, > criticising, etc. That's not a "threat factor", that's a "really getting on your tits factor". Avon isn't annoying when he's being competitive so much as when he's sitting on the sidelines sneering. At such times he reminds me of a friend of mine who would sometimes annoy me with his habit of being extremely wise after the event and criticising other people's plans in a rather patronising fashion while not having the guts to put his own ideas on the line. There's nothing worse, when you're trying to get something done, than unconstructive criticism. Avon is far less annoying after Blake has left, when he finally has to put up or shut up. Whereas Avon goes pretty easy on his female > colleagues. It's the testosterone facter,' guys gotta jostle each other, > but can get along with women'. (not always true of course, Vila's so > loveable, in part, because he doesn't try to be top dog). So men may see > Avon as a competitor, and dislike him on those grounds. Naah, I'm far too egotistical to dislike competitors. Iain ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 11:11:01 -0000 From: "Debra Collard" To: "B7L" Subject: [B7L] Re New Book Message-ID: <000201be50f8$3b783e00$f72d883e@whisson1globalnet.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >This sounds interesting, does anyone else know anything about it? Did you notice the author Debra? >£35 is a fair amount of dosh though isn't it? We'll have to make sure someone gets it and reviews it when it comes out. The author is John kenneth Muir and it is published by McFarland and Co Debra ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 06:17:55 EST From: Mac4781@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] B7- new book? Message-ID: <234eb876.36bad363@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit The price of the book suggested small print run and possibly an academic market to me. Further surfing found another book by John Kenneth Muir: Wes Craven: The Art of Horror and this information about McFarland: <> The B7 book didn't come up in a search of their on-line catalogue, but they might not list books that are still months away from publication. I think I'll try to get the Wes Craven book by Muir (via the library) to get an idea of his style, approach to subject matter, etc. Carol Mc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 13:58:31 +0100 From: Jacqueline Thijsen To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: RE: [B7L] Flat Robin continues... Message-ID: <39DCDDFD014ED21185C300104BB3F99F10FAF7@NL-ARN-MAIL01> Content-Type: text/plain And here's installment number four. Where are those other enthousiasts who liked the idea? Calle? > > > > "Vila, why did you fire the nuetron blasters?" > > > > "I didn't like the way it was looking at us." > Avon, already dressed in his "landing-party" clothes, looked at him. "If you fired the blasters every time you felt that way, we'd never get to meet anybody." Cally and Blake both shot Vila an exasperated look, before joining Avon in the teleporter. Jenna walked with them to operate it, ignoring Vila's grumbling. After some deliberation they'd chosen to go down near a city that had a river running through it. Or at least, they thought it was a river. On some of the readings they'd taken, it appeared to be solid. They'd chosen the city, because there was a fair amount of traffic going in and out of it, which meant that strangers probably wouldn't attract much notice there. "All right", said Blake, "We'll stay down for two hours, no more." He ignored Avon's annoyed look with habitual ease. Jenna grinned, waited for all of them to be ready, and sent them on their way. She leaned back with a sigh and settled in for a wait. Meanwhile, on the flight deck, Vila had once again poured himself some soma, still muttering about the evil look that turtle had had in its eye. Suddenly he saw something move to his left. He took a good look at what it was, squeezed his eyes shut, took another look and then looked at his glass. Then he looked to his left again. Yep, there it was, small and looking decidedly bony. Of course, that was not unusual for the skeleton of a rat. Its presence on the flight deck, however, was unusual. The presence of a very small scythe, clutched in its front paws, was somewhat strange. And the fact that it seemed to move under its own power was utterly impossible. Yet that's wat it was doing, taking small steps as it was examining whatever caught its interest on the flight deck. Vila wondered why he didn't suddenly hold his breath as the rat skeleton looked at him, then realised that that was because he'd been holding it ever since he first saw it. He decided to try breathing again. It cleared up his dizziness quite nicely. He liked the look of the rat even less than he'd liked that turtle. He felt pretty much the same way he'd have felt if he'd run into the overly enthousiastic younger brother of someone he'd been trying to avoid seeing for years. Such younger brothers had an annoying habit of slapping your shoulders, enquiring loudly about where you'd been all this time and then calling at someone behind you: "Hey, [insert name of person to be avoided here], look who I just ran into!" Vile was suddenly quite sure that he did not want to meet the older brother or equivalent thereof, of a small rat skeleton. The death of rats looked at someone behind Vila. It said, very loudly, "squeek!". Vila started trembling as he heard a bony footstep behind him, and a very, very cold voice said: "YES?". ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 11:46:59 +0200 From: "422ami" <422ami@nt52.parliament.bg> To: "Alison Page" , "B7L" Subject: Re: [B7L] B7- new book? Message-Id: <199902051533.QAA27814@samantha.lysator.liu.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alison asked: As I checked the title too, I can answer: "History and Critical Analysis of "Blakes 7", the 1978-81 British" will be available in August. There will be some discount, so the book becomes not _that_ expensive. The author is John Kenneth Muir (I've never heard anything about him. Does any other does?). He also have been written the books "Exploring "Space 1999" : An Episode Guide and Complete History of the Mid" and "Unearthing "Battlestar Galactica" : An Episode Guide and Analysis of the" or, at least, this is, what I found in the Net. Best wishes: Hellen ---------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 18:53:57 -0000 From: "Debra Collard" To: "B7L" Subject: [B7L] Message-ID: <000101be5138$e51f3a40$ce4b883e@whisson1globalnet.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Julia Jones said> On the other hand, I liked him when I was a child *because* he was such a bastard. I couldn't understand why Blake didn't toss him off the ship - but it made for such fascinating interactions (and get your minds out of the gutter, I'm talking about when I wasn't old enough to notice such things). My three young children(all male) watch the videos with me and they all like Avon best, mind you the eldest who is 10 has started to notice Jenna! Also, when they saw Guards Guards they all recognised PD instantly. Debra ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 18:55:36 -0000 From: "Debra Collard" To: "B7L" Subject: [B7L] B7 last posting Message-ID: <000401be5139$54c169e0$eb39883e@whisson1globalnet.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I didn't mean to be impolite and send the last post without a subject heading, I pushed the wrong button, sorry. Debra -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V99 Issue #52 *************************************