From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V99 #46 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume99/46 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 46 Today's Topics: [B7L] Fan Fiction Re: [B7L] Re: Virus warning Re: [B7L] Would there be any objections...? Re: [B7L] Redemption [B7L] More B7 stats Re: [B7L] More B7 stats Re: [B7L] More B7 stats Re: [B7L] More B7 stats Re: [B7L] More B7 stats Re: [B7L] More B7 stats Re: [B7L] More B7 stats Re: [B7L] Finally finished Afterlife [B7L] Re: Virus warning [B7L] Glynis Barber sighting... Re: [B7L] Redemption [B7L] Finally Finished Afterlife [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF Re: [B7L] More B7 stats Re: [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF Re: [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF Re: [B7L] Fan Fiction Re: [B7L] Would there be any objections...? Re: [B7L] More B7 stats Re: [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF Re: [B7L] Finally Finished Afterlife Re: [B7L] [B7}: Virus warning RE: [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 07:49:42 -0000 From: "Peter Horrocks" To: Subject: [B7L] Fan Fiction Message-ID: <001901be4b5b$f00ddca0$2303883e@pre-installedco> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01BE4B5B.EE736680" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BE4B5B.EE736680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi ! I'm new to the Net and the list! I'm Marion and live in = Shropshire. I've been a B7 Fan for 21 years, and watch the B7 videos rather a lot. = For me, they are a cure-all for everything -take 2 episodes and a cup of = tea... (allthough how this works with Neil's description of B7 as = containing "such a level of cynicism, futility and moral ambiguity, not = to mention violence" is interesting - there are other things as well - = rebellion for a start!)=20 But I haven't read any fan fiction yet. Don't know where to start. What = is Slash? Should I buy it or avoid it? Is the fiction that has = appeared in recent Horizon issues typical? I would appreciate some = guidance here. Judith mentions something strange but interesting called = "Renaissance", involving a chap I like, called Machiavelli. Don't = believe all that is said about him, Neil, read his book "The Prince" and = make your own mind up. =20 =20 Marion ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BE4B5B.EE736680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi ! I'm new to the Net and = the=20 list! I'm Marion and live in=20 Shropshire.

I've been a B7 Fan for 21 years, and watch the B7 videos = rather a=20 lot. For me, they are a cure-all for everything -take 2 episodes = and a cup=20 of tea... (allthough how this works with Neil's description of B7 as = containing=20 "such a level of cynicism, futility and moral ambiguity, not to = mention=20 violence" is interesting - there are other things as well - = rebellion for a=20 start!)

But I haven't read any fan fiction yet. Don't know where to = start. What is Slash? Should I buy it or avoid it? Is = the=20 fiction that has appeared in recent Horizon issues typical? I = would=20 appreciate some guidance here. Judith mentions something strange = but=20 interesting called "Renaissance", involving a chap I like, = called=20 Machiavelli. Don't believe all that is said about him, Neil, read his = book=20 "The Prince" and make your own mind up. =20

Marion

------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BE4B5B.EE736680-- ------------------------------ Date: 29 Jan 1999 09:37:26 +0100 From: Calle Dybedahl To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Virus warning Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> writes: > can't we warn them kindly rather than angrily? Unfortunately doing so doesn't seem to work. You can see the attitude at work in Julies posting where she admits that she knows she's doing wrong, but posts anyway just in case. A gentle note saying that no, it was wrong this time too, isn't very likely to stop her the next time she considers something "probably worth passing on". I'll post more about this on the spin list. -- Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se Hail Eris! All Hail Discordia! Where am I? Fnord? Oh, there. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 01:00:35 PST From: "Penny Dreadful" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Would there be any objections...? Message-ID: <19990129090035.28881.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain >Normally I don't write slash and >haven't really been inclined to read it...But if there are no >objections, I will write it for the subscribers of this list. Come to the Dark Side, Avona! --Darth Dreadful ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 01:10:54 PST From: "Penny Dreadful" To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Redemption Message-ID: <19990129091054.13647.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Judith said: >So far, I think we have seven >teddy bears and a sheep registered! ...and *that*, friends, is what *I* call a Good Time. --Penny "Five Dollars, Father, Same As In Town" Dreadful ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:11:30 +0000 From: Russ Massey To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] More B7 stats Message-ID: I've had a couple of interested responses so I'll continue with the stats (you'll be disappointed to learn that Avon seems to have gone missing :) VILA RESTAL (158 points) Strength 11 Dexterity 16 IQ 13 Health 10 Advantages: Alertness (1 level) Charisma (1 level) Luck Manual Dexterity (4 levels) Resistance to mind alteration (5 levels) Disadvantages: Horrible Hangovers Combat Paralysis Edgy Laziness Odious Personal Habit - Pessimism Social Stigma (Delta Grade) Unluckiness (yes, you can have both luck and unluck!) Weak Will (2 levels) Quirks: Congenial Distractible Drinks whenever the opportunity arises Makes passes at any pretty girl Staid Skills: Bard 13 Body Sense 13 Gunner 13 Mechanic (Locks) 15 Language (Anglic) 13 Survival (Urban) 12 Architecture 13 Criminology 11 Electronics (Force Shields) 12 Electronics (Security Systems) 18 Electronics (Sensors) 14 Mathematics 10 (An essential prequisite for some of his other skills) Acting 13 Fast-Talk 13 Gambling 12 Merchant 13 Performance 14 (i.e. His ability as a showman) Filch 18 Holdout 13 Lockpicking 23 (This phenomenal level allows him to open the hardest locks very rapidly) Pickpocket 13 Sleight of Hand 18 Stealth 14 Streetwise 12 Traps 16 (Actually a zero cost default from his other skills) Roj Blake (174 Points) Strength 12 Dexterity 12 IQ 14 Health 11 Advantages: Extra Hit Points +2 (Makes him tough for his size) Hard to Kill +2 (Means that wounds become more survivable) Strong Will (3 Levels) Disadvantages: Fanaticism (I call 'em as I see 'em :) Overconfidence Sense of Duty (To all humanity) Stubbornness Reputation -2 to Federation Supporters Quirks: Congenial Unsure of his memories Skills: Bard 15 Body Sense 9 Beam Weapons (Blaster) 14 Brawling 14 Language (Anglic) 15 First Aid 14 Tracking 12 Law (Federation) 12 Computer Programming 11 Electronics (Teleport) 14 Engineer (Structural) 12 History 13 Mathematics 12 Philosophy (Revolutionary) 12 Psychology 12 Administration 14 Diplomacy 17 Fast-Talk 15 Intimidation 12 Leadership 17 Politics 17 Savoire-Faire (Alpha Grade) 15 Strategy 14 Tactics 12 Demolition 13 Shadowing 12 -- Russ Massey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 07:24:39 EST From: AChevron@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] More B7 stats Message-ID: <21323b8f.36b1a887@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I'm enjoying the stats, Russ. Perhaps you can re-create Avon, inasmuch as he's missing? I haven't played the GURPs system, but I have a number of the books as reference material, since the game does lend itself to adjustment to other systems. It would be interesting to see if there are enough GURPs fans to perhaps put together an unofficial GURPs reference book. D. Rose ------------------------------ Date: 29 Jan 1999 13:54:34 +0100 From: Calle Dybedahl To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] More B7 stats Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII AChevron@aol.com writes: > It would be interesting to see if there are enough GURPs fans to > perhaps put together an unofficial GURPs reference book. And if we can agree on the stats :-) At the moment, I feel that Russ has given almost all of them too high attributes. -- Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se Hail Eris! All Hail Discordia! Where am I? Fnord? Oh, there. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:52:07 EST From: AChevron@aol.com To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] More B7 stats Message-ID: <7acff168.36b1d927@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 99-01-29 07:57:30 EST, you write: << And if we can agree on the stats :-) At the moment, I feel that Russ has given almost all of them too high attributes. >> That would be a problem. I'm thinking the background source material would be a bit less contriversial, though special skills and handicaps might be difficult to iron out. If it turns out there's any real interest in this as a project, folks can contact me via e-mail to see what we can work out, I suppose. D. Rose ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 16:26:53 +0000 From: Russ Massey To: Calle Dybedahl Cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] More B7 stats Message-ID: <+4YbvEANFes2EwEW@wriding.demon.co.uk> In message , Calle Dybedahl writes >AChevron@aol.com writes: > >> It would be interesting to see if there are enough GURPs fans to >> perhaps put together an unofficial GURPs reference book. > >And if we can agree on the stats :-) At the moment, I feel that Russ >has given almost all of them too high attributes. > Understandable. I based my characterisations on the heroic model rather than the purely realistic one. I'm sure that Jan's real strength is lower than that supposedly shown by Cally in combat. -- Russ Massey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 16:24:57 +0000 From: Russ Massey To: AChevron@aol.com Cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] More B7 stats Message-ID: <54ta$BAZDes2EwFl@wriding.demon.co.uk> In message <21323b8f.36b1a887@aol.com>, AChevron@aol.com writes > I'm enjoying the stats, Russ. Perhaps you can re-create Avon, inasmuch as >he's missing? I haven't played the GURPs system, but I have a number of the >books as reference material, since the game does lend itself to adjustment to >other systems. It would be interesting to see if there are enough GURPs fans >to perhaps put together an unofficial GURPs reference book. D. Rose > It should be possible. I'm at a loss to know what happened, since I created all the characters on the GURPS Character Assistant Software, and yet some of the files have disappeared. I may still have my original notes and/or printouts knocking around though. Here's the remaining two characters I still have handy stats on. OLAG GAN (201 points) Strength 17 Dexterity 11 IQ 10 Health 13 Advantages: Common Sense Composed Extra Hit Points +2 Fearlessness (2 levels) High Pain Threshold (as seen in Redemption among others) Toughness (2 point) Disadvantages: Migraine Pacifism - Cannot Kill (due to limiter) Sense of Duty to friends and companions Quirks: Congenial Dull Humble Skills: Brawling 15 First Aid 11 Agronomy 11 (on the assumption that he was a farmer - debatable) Intimidation 13 Streetwise 9 JENNA STANNIS (175.5 points) Strength 11 Dexterity 13 IQ 13 Health 12 Advantages: 3D Spatial Sense (A great aid to space piloting) Beautiful Appearance Charisma (1 level) Common Sense Cool Manual Dexterity (2 levels) Reputation (as smuggler) +1 reaction from fellow outlaws Strong will (1 level) Disadvantages: Jealously Reputation (as smuggler) -2 reaction from law enforcement Quirks: Attracted to Blake Cynical Chauvinistic (? - I can't think where the justification for this came from, unless it's meant to imply her anti-alien bias) Skills: Dancing 12 Body Sense 10 Free Fall 11 (I assume she must have some zero G experience) Beam Weapons (Blaster) 14 Brawling 13 Gunner 13 Knife 12 First Aid 12 Navigation 11 Electronics Operations (Communications) 12 Electronics Operations (Sensors) 12 Freight Handling 11 Law (Commercial) 11 Astrogation 15 Astronomy 12 Acting 12 Carousing 11 Diplomacy 11 Fast-Talk 11 Intimidation 11 Leadership 13 Merchant 13 Savoire-Faire (Alpha Grade) 13 Sex Appeal 11 Tactics 11 Teaching 12 Interrogation 11 Stealth 12 Streetwise 13 Piloting (Large Spacecraft) 17 Piloting (Small Spacecraft) 15 Vacc Suit 12 -- Russ Massey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 16:41:27 -0000 From: "Neil Faulkner" To: "lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] More B7 stats Message-ID: <001e01be4ba6$55ff4680$bb18ac3e@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Calle wrote: >And if we can agree on the stats :-) At the moment, I feel that Russ >has given almost all of them too high attributes. Yup, I noticed too that the lowest attribute any of them got was an average 10. I'd have given Cally a Strength of 9 or maybe even 8. I also notice that Cally and Servalan both top 200 points while the male characters Russ has cited so far are in the mid-100s. But then his biases are skewed in much the same direction as mine in some regards:) I said around Xmas time I was thinking of dusting off my own system, and the bad news is I have done so. Here's 'my' Cally, designed more or less within the limitations of the character design rules though a bit more liberal with the skills. Attributes are rated from 5 through through to 9, 7 being average. Skills are based on attribute scores, 7 representing a roughly 50% chance of basic success. Muscle: 6 - Toughness +1, Agility +1, Health +2 Brains 8 - Logic +1, Intuition +1, Planning +2 (the Planning trait gives a bonus to Technical skills) Speed - 7 Presence: 7 - Looks +1 (like I said, I'm biased), Confidence +1 Willpower: 9 - Endurance +2 (adds enormously toher survivability), Psi +2 Coordination: 7 - Reaction +2 (governs shooting and dodging) Awareness: 7 - Tuning +2 (makes her hard to surprise) Other advantages: Hard To Stun (a general combat survival advantage). Skills (these are done on a skill tree system, three levels of specialisation): Brawling 6, Infighting 7 Gunhandling 7, Pistols 8, Liberator Handgun 9 Rifles 8 Technical 8, Radiotech 10, Communications 11 Supertech 10 Gymnastic 7, Dodge 9 Education 8, Sciences 9 Perception 7, Sixth Sense 9 (so not easy to take by surprise) Furtive 9 Language/Terran 11 (taken to third level of specialisation, hence fluent in general conversation) Surgery 8, First Aid 9 Medicine 8, Pathology 9 (good at diagnosis, not so hot at treatment - but that's what computers are for!) Psionic ability- Projected Telepathy 12 (I'm going to rehash the psionics rules so I'm not sure what this implies at the moment re distance, power etc). This makes her a professional level technician with good back-up expertise in combat and medical skills. She should try and steer clear of the hand-to-hand stuff, though. (Shuold you be interested, skills are rolled on 2d6, rerolling any natural 6s, adding skill rating. A total of 15+ represents a basic success but higher totals give better results). Rivetting, I know:) Neil ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:37:30 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L] Finally finished Afterlife Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Fri 29 Jan, Reuben Herfindahl wrote: > >> Next up: A Terrible Aspect....umm, on 2nd thought I think I'll just read > >> Neverwhere again. > > > >Or you could buy something like 'The Machiavelli Factor', one of my all time > >favourite fanzines - written by a fan who has also written professionally. > > > Hmm, I'll look into that. Actually if anyone has any recomendation for good > B7 non-erotica fanzines or novellas I'd be very interested in hearing about > them. Let's see. Excluding erotica of any kind, my favourite zines are: 'The Totally Imaginary Cheeseboard' - Avon's adventures at a convention when a teleport malfunction swops him with Paul Darrow. Hilarious and touching. (My edition of this is unfortunatly lower print quality than everything else I do as I was only allowed to copy directly from the American text rather than re-lay out the text for UK paper) 'The Machiavelli Factor' - novel by Lilian Sheperd - alterntaive universe story startting at 'Terminal'. Cally doesn't die. The entire crew are whisked away to another galaxy where they get embroiled in truely Machiavellian politics. This one will appeal mainly to Avon, Blake, Cally, Vila fans. Dayna gets a reasonable part, but Tarrant fans don't always like this one. Blake is there though. Hurrah! Lillian always writes a good Cally. She's of the 'Cally was an Auron warrior' school. 'Morgan' - I don't care if I wrote it; it's still a favourite. - Avon wakes up in Wales in 1984 with no memory of how or why he is there. The last thing he can remember is defeating Servalan with a lump of sopron. Just to add to his confusion, there is Morgan. Morgan could be Blake's twin brother, apart from looking about ten years older, but he is nothing like Blake in personality. Morgan is a hill farmer, lonely, poorly-educated and suspicious of strangers. 'The Road to Hell' by Suzan Lovett - A collection of some of the best B7 stories ever written (two long and three short). The focus is always on Avon and Blake. The stories manage that fine balance on the relationship between them, giving you insight into both of them without ever toppling into overt sentimentality. There are also some very well thought out plots. Anyone who reads 'Cricle of Fire' will not forget it for a very long time. My favourites are mainly ones I publish myself, for the very simple reason that when I fall in love with an out-of-print zine, my automatic reaction is to trace the writer and ask for permission to print a new edition. If you want further recommendations, try looking through some of the reviews on my web page. Judith PS. I'm always looking for more reviews. If you'd like to write a review of any Blake's 7 zine, I'd be happy to publish it on the page. It doesn't matter if the zine is out of print - it was reading reviews of out-of-print zines that enabled me to grab some of my favourites when I first saw them in a second-hand box at a convention. -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:45:05 -0000 From: "Julie Horner" To: Subject: [B7L] Re: Virus warning Message-ID: <006001be4bbf$df260480$686845c2@orac> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Calle Dybedahl > You can see the attitude at work in Julies posting where she admits >that she knows she's doing wrong, but posts anyway just in case. I think you misquote me. I did not say that I knew what I was doing was wrong, I simply acknowledged that I knew that most of these warnings are a hoax. In other words, what I was trying to say was, "Look don't ignore this one because I think it is really genuine". I realise now that this was very naive but, although I have heard of the concept of hoax warnings, I have had virtually no exposure to them, unlike some of you guys who have clearly had lots. Also as for as checking it out, I wasn't aware that there were any resources for doing this (Though rest assured I have bookmarked all the URLs passed on to me since then). In the light of what I have seen and read this week I can now see why everyone else spotted it as a phony from the start. The only reason I can offer up as to why I fell for it (other than a lack of experience of these hoaxes) is that it came from within the company I work for from a source who is normally reliable. Perhaps I would have brought less wrath down on my head if I had passed it on without comment but, as I have already tried to explain, I actually believed it might be for real and wanted to draw attention to that fact. So. I admit I was foolish and gullible but, believe it or not, it was well-intentioned and was not simply a case of "I can't be bothered to check" as some people have implied. However, it has been a useful learning experience ------------------------------ Date: 29 Jan 1999 21:18:56 +0100 From: Calle Dybedahl To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Glynis Barber sighting... Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII ...in something called "The Apocalypse Watch", from 1997. She looks *old*. -- Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se Truth is stranger than fiction, because fiction has to make sense. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:14:18 +0000 From: Julia Jones To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Redemption Message-ID: In message <19990129091054.13647.qmail@hotmail.com>, Penny Dreadful writes >Judith said: > >>So far, I think we have seven >>teddy bears and a sheep registered! > >...and *that*, friends, is what *I* call a Good Time. > But only if it's an *inflatable* sheep... -- Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. ------------------------------ Date: 29 Jan 1999 17:35:55 -0800 From: "Ma.James" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Finally Finished Afterlife Message-ID: >Reuben >Hmm, I'll look into that. Actually if anyone has any recomendation >for good B7 non-erotica fanzines or novellas I'd be very interested >in hearing about them. 'Desperado', 'The Double-edged Sword Trilogy', and 'The Machiavelli Factor' are three of my favorites. Of course, the first two are heavily Avon-focused. ;) I also like 'Checkers', 'Mirage', and 'Nova'. Candace Baker Ma ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:43:16 CST From: still unknown To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF Message-Id: <9901300143.AA08067@isuad1.iastate.edu> Is it just me or is it usually the telepathically aware character that gets steamrolled by the psychic menace of the week? And shouldn't it maybe be the other way around, that the telepathically-aware should be able to resist a tactic like that better? Pondering, grim --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |"Just me,| grimjack at iastate | Sometimes gamer, writer, reader. | | my Muse,| All rights reserved.| I don't speak for ISU. | | and I." | Copyright 1999. | ISU doesn't speak for me. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:47:55 CST From: grimjack@iastate.edu To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] More B7 stats Message-Id: <9901300147.AA08121@isuad1.iastate.edu> > And if we can agree on the stats :-) At the moment, I feel that Russ > has given almost all of them too high attributes. I guess I'll disagree here, I like 'em. :) And since I've got the spotlight once more, I'd just like to say, keep posting 'em everyone! And thanks. grim --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |"Just me,| grimjack at iastate | Sometimes gamer, writer, reader. | | my Muse,| All rights reserved.| I don't speak for ISU. | | and I." | Copyright 1999. | ISU doesn't speak for me. | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:24:21 EST From: Tigerm1019@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF Message-ID: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 99-01-29 20:45:27 EST, you write: << Is it just me or is it usually the telepathically aware character that gets steamrolled by the psychic menace of the week? And shouldn't it maybe be the other way around, that the telepathically-aware should be able to resist a tactic like that better? >> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:26:26 EST From: Tigerm1019@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF Message-ID: <4f78958e.36b26dd2@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Whoops, sorry about the previous message. It's getting late and I'm tired. In a message dated 99-01-29 20:45:27 EST, grim wrote: << Is it just me or is it usually the telepathically aware character that gets steamrolled by the psychic menace of the week? And shouldn't it maybe be the other way around, that the telepathically-aware should be able to resist a tactic like that better? >> I think Cally was vulnerable because she was separated from her people. She was always alone and in "Sarcophagus" and "The Web," the aliens took advantage of her longing for contact with other telepaths to get a foothold in her mind. In "Shadow," the alien targeted her because she was the greatest threat to it and the only member of the crew who could stop it. It had to knock her out of the way first before it could achieve its objective. Tiger M ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 18:46:54 -0800 From: Pat Patera To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Fan Fiction Message-ID: <36B2729E.491E@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marion wrote: > I've been a B7 Fan for 21 years, ... > But I haven't read any fan fiction yet. Don't know where to start. Oh dear, where have you been? Visit the Blakes 7 websites mentioned on this list for reviews of the fanzines and info on where to order them. Or, attend a convention and buy fanzines directly from the dealers. > What is Slash? Stories portraying romantic or sexual relationships between characters of the same sex: usually male (since most fan writers are female). These usually (but not always) focus on character interaction rather than space action / adventure. > Should I buy it or avoid it? That depends on your personal tastes. > Judith mentions something strange but interesting > called "Renaissance", involving a chap I like, called Machiavelli. > Don't believe all that is said about him, Neil, read his book "The > Prince" and make your own mind up. The Prince tells us little about Machiavelli himself. It is mostly a cookbook for the successful sovereign. I expect the fanzine takes creative liberties in fleshing out the character. PS Marion, welcome to the list. Pat P ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 18:49:18 -0800 From: Pat Patera To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Would there be any objections...? Message-ID: <36B2732E.3BDC@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Penny Dreadful wrote: > >Normally I don't write slash and > >haven't really been inclined to read it...But if there are no > >objections, I will write it for the subscribers of this list. > > Come to the Dark Side, Avona! Bare your secret soul to all Then bare your breast to receive the slings and arrows of literary criticism. {just kidding} NOT! Pat P Eagerly awaiting your story, with arrow notched to string. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 18:39:04 -0800 From: Pat Patera To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] More B7 stats Message-ID: <36B270C8.6813@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Calle Dybedahl wrote: > At the moment, I feel that Russ > has given almost all of them too high attributes. Agreed. Giving Gan an intelligence rating of 10 = average is a good example, reminiscent of "dumbing down" the SAT scores. I'm nterested in seeing the intelligence score Avon rates. Well? WHERE *is* the Avon score? (tapping foot impatiently, aka Servalan. And Servalan does *not* like to be kept waiting!) Strength? Yes, give Gan a 17, and Blake a 12, but the rest? Average or below. Especially Vila and Cally, who are lightweights. Intelligence? Yes, give Orac a 20, but the rest (save Servalan, Carnell and Avon (in that order) show few impressive cognative abilities. Vila? Only the alien in Sarcophogas says he is highly intelligent, but perhaps she was comparing his adequate mind to his moronic behavior, for in the same sentence she says he "acts like a fool." Charisma? Give Avon a 2. bwahahahahaha! Why don't handicaps get a numerical rating? Shouldn't they detract from the numerical attributes score? Pat P ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 00:36:37 EST From: AChevron@aol.com To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF Message-ID: <262a8548.36b29a65@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 99-01-29 20:45:27 EST, you write: << s it just me or is it usually the telepathically aware character that gets steamrolled by the psychic menace of the week? >> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:41:34 -0800 From: Tramila To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Finally Finished Afterlife Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990129214134.007ef9e0@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >I also like 'Checkers', 'Mirage', and 'Nova'. YES!!! Checkers is great! So Pat....... when are you going to write Chess? Tramila Oh and giggling like crazy. he he ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 04:24:36 PST From: "Don Trower" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] [B7}: Virus warning Message-ID: <19990127122437.1704.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain The screen saver with the frogs that says "Bud - wise -err" can be down loaded from .... http://www.budweiser.com/screensaver/index.html ... which I have just done, scanned with the latest Dr Solomon's Anti Virus and it appears to be OK. Don. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 09:27:14 +0100 From: Jacqueline Thijsen To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: RE: [B7L] Telepaths and psychic menances in B7 and SF Message-ID: <39DCDDFD014ED21185C300104BB3F99F10FAE2@NL-ARN-MAIL01> Content-Type: text/plain Grim wrote: >Is it just me or is it usually the telepathically aware character that >gets steamrolled by the psychic menace of the week? And shouldn't it >maybe be the other way around, that the telepathically-aware should >be able to resist a tactic like that better? Not if you think of telepathy the same way as you would think of, say, electricity. For instance, if you plug in one of Penny's toasters it is possible to overload it (if you do some really weird stuff to your wiring or try to make toast for a GITHOG member). But throw some electricity at a solid block of iron, and it will just ignore it. The toaster is set up to receive the electricity and use it, just like telepaths are set up to receive messages directly into their brains. Does that sound logical? Hey, it's better than yelling "plot device" once again. Jacqueline -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V99 Issue #46 *************************************