From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V99 #259 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume99/259 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 259 Today's Topics: [B7L] About the Freedom City list [B7L] ["Anne Wells" ] REDEMPTION '01 T-SHIRTS [B7L] We have a winner [B7L] missing zines Re: Re [B7L] Spacials Re: [B7L] ice cold in alex Re: [B7L] We have a winner Re: Re [B7L] Spacials [B7L] apology Re: [B7L] We have a winner ------------------------------ Date: 01 Sep 1999 06:00:14 +0200 From: Calle Dybedahl To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] About the Freedom City list Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Someone whose name will not be disclosed (since I don't know it) posted a pointer to the Freedom City mailing list to Usenet. As a direct result of this, the FC list is closed to new subscriptions until further notice. -- Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se "I like darkness, because it shows us light" -- Victoria McManus ------------------------------ Date: 01 Sep 1999 06:49:39 +0200 From: Calle Dybedahl To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] ["Anne Wells" ] REDEMPTION '01 T-SHIRTS Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Multipart_Wed_Sep__1_06:49:39_1999-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Multipart_Wed_Sep__1_06:49:39_1999-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Posting stuck in the spamfilter, forwarded since it's relevant. -- Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se Please pay no attention to the panda in the fridge. --Multipart_Wed_Sep__1_06:49:39_1999-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 01:05:35 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <001d01bef406$435cf820$734c883e@pbncomputer> From: "Anne Wells" To: Cc: Subject: REDEMPTION '01 T-SHIRTS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yes, they're coming back, those essential wardrobe items, the REDEMPTION Black T-shirts. The new design is Liberator exiting a Babylon 5 Jumpgate (very pale blue on the eternal Basic Black), soon to be seen on the REDEMPTION '01 web-site at http://www.smof.com/redemption. We are taking orders for T-shirts and if you order NOW we can also do Sweatshirts. This is your only chance to order a sweatshirt, so if you want one you'd better be quick (orders by 9/9/1999 please). The shirts are only available to REDEMPTION '01 members; so if you haven't registered yet, why not send your order along with your membership form [grin]. Prices include P&P; T-shirts: M, L, XL - £8.50 ........ XXL - £9.00 Sweatshirts: M, L, XL - £13.50 ......XXL - £14.50 Please state choice of T-shirt and/or Sweatshirt and size(s) and enclose payment (UK cash/cheques only). Address for orders:- Lesley Voronov, 26 Kings Meadow View, Wetherby, LS22 7FX. Lesley Voronov & Anne Wells http://www.smof.com/redemption --Multipart_Wed_Sep__1_06:49:39_1999-1-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 17:11:58 +0100 From: Steve Rogerson To: Lysator Subject: [B7L] We have a winner Message-ID: <37CD504D.11226EDE@mcr1.poptel.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I see from this month's SFX (October No 56) that a certain L Rutter of Richmond has won 50 pounds worth of goodies from Forbidden Plant. I presume that's our resident Louise. Well done. -- cheers Steve Rogerson http://homepages.poptel.org.uk/steve.rogerson Be inconsistent, but not all the time ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:25:02 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List cc: Freedom City Subject: [B7L] missing zines Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Several people who ordered zines from me around June have had long delays on zines and in some cases have had replacement copies sent already as we concluded the post had eaten them for ever. I just got the following from Linda. > > The post office (Regional, not local) just "found" 5 packages of fanzines that > were going overseas in June/July. They sent them on (of course before asking > me - they just notified me it had been done). So some of the "missing" > fanzines might now turn up in the owner's hands. If you end up getting duplicate copies because of this, please contact me and I'll sort things out. Thanks, Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.nas.com/~lknight) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 19:53:42 +0100 From: Michael Cugley To: "Neil Faulkner" , blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: Re [B7L] Spacials Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990901195342.007db7c0@mail.virgin.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:01 PM 8/31/99 +0100, you wrote: >Has anyone had a go at this thorny little problem? If so, what results did >you get? I have the same problem, as I'm constructing some B7 computer models for ships, using the Horizon Technical Manuals as guides. Unfortunately, some of the ships (e.g. the Liberator and Federation Pursuit ships) are in "millispacials" while others (e.g. Scorpio and the London) are in feet. So, if I was ever to try and render a scene involving, say, the Scorpio and a Pusuit ship, I have no idea how big they are compared to one another... By measuring various bits in the Tech manuals, I eventually came up with a value of 1 millispacial ~= 31 metres - this seems to work out about right (more or less) visually; however, whether this is a good value for fanfic or whatever I dunno :) Hope this helps :) -- Mike Cugley, lunatic at large http://freespace.virgin.net/michael.cugley/ http://freespace.virgin.net/michael.cugley/Art/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:59:41 EDT From: Tigerm1019@aol.com To: alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk, blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] ice cold in alex Message-ID: <1b254214.24fed19d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/30/99 3:22:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk writes: > We have talked before about the potential influence of 1950s films on the > writers and actors of B7. Here's another one. > > Ice Cold in Alex is obviously one of the best British war films ever made. > It was on Channel 4 last night. > > I think there are obvious B7 parallels, but most of them are general rather > than specific. For example the beautiful Sylvia Syms is what Jenna > could/should have been, and the Sergeant Major is a dead ringer for Gan. But > these are fairly common types, which just get a particularly good showing in > this film. > > But I think that Anthony Quayle, as the suspect 'South African' officer, is > so close to Tarrant that it can't be a coincidence. I would love to ask > actor, writer and director if there was any conscious influence. > > Largely it is a matter of his manner with the rest of the crew, which is > slightly hard to pin down. But here are a few thoughts > > - He is an 'outsider' who imposes himself on the already established crew > - When we first see him he is wearing an assumed uniform > - He is a big tall man with much more energy than any of the others > - He has curly hair and a roundish face (though, admittedly, he is not young > or pretty) > - He doesn't defer to the rather damaged leader the way the rest do, but > questions and challenges him > - He blatantly bullies from time to time to get people to do what he wants > - When they are discouraged his energy pulls them round > - He saves their lives by behaving with heroic selflessness > - By the end he is completely accepted by the crew, despite his faults > > I also seem to remember that in the original conception of the third season > Tarrant was planned to be an older man than he ended up, who would have > actually been a federation officer (i.e. Nazi officer) who infiltrated the > crew. In this case the resemblance to van der Poer would have been very > close indeed. > > In the film the character wears a minute pair of khaki shorts which show off > his immense legs. This is used to emphasise his slightly irritating > in-your-face physicality, and I think it's a brilliant piece of costume. > Perhaps they should have put Tarrant into a similar pair at some point? > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:23:48 +0100 From: "Neil Faulkner" To: "lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] We have a winner Message-ID: <005301bef4b1$acc171a0$bf458cd4@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve wrote: >I see from this month's SFX (October No 56) that a certain L Rutter of >Richmond has won 50 pounds worth of goodies from Forbidden Plant. I >presume that's our resident Louise. Well done. Terrific news. Well done, Louise. But I wouldn't mind knowing what colour flowers a Forbidden Plant has:) Neil ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:36:51 +0100 From: "Neil Faulkner" To: "lysator" Subject: Re: Re [B7L] Spacials Message-ID: <005401bef4b1$af2cf360$bf458cd4@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike Cugley (lunatic at large) wrote: >By measuring various bits in the Tech manuals, I eventually came up with a >value of 1 millispacial ~= 31 metres - this seems to work out about right >(more or less) visually; however, whether this is a good value for fanfic >or whatever I dunno :) An article in Horizon NL 26 (A Question of Scale, by Bruce Parks, HNL 26, p.34) used the same Technical Manual and came up with values of 21.7 and 21.77 miles for a spacial, which averages out at 35.2 km. That's very close to your 31 km. I'm still not happy with it, because it would still give the pursuit ships a detector range of about four light minutes. If, as I tend to posit, they are travelling at several thousand times the speed of light, theyy wouldn't be aware of their target until it was fractions of a second away. That would make it near on impossible to locate a target in the first place, and would also entail a very serious risk of collisions. (Very little chance of actually colliding with something, of course, but even less chance of avoiding one should the eventuality occur.) Neil ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 23:34:03 EDT From: Tigerm1019@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] apology Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Earlier today I sent a message that I'd been keeping in my In Box to reply to when I had a chance, but I pushed the wrong button and sent it before I was ready. :-/ Sorry about that, especially to Alison, who got it twice. Tiger M ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 19:06:01 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L] We have a winner Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Wed 01 Sep, Steve Rogerson wrote: > I see from this month's SFX (October No 56) that a certain L Rutter of > Richmond has won 50 pounds worth of goodies from Forbidden Plant. Is that a new breed of triffid? Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.nas.com/~lknight) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V99 Issue #259 **************************************