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blakes7-d Digest				Volume 99 : Issue 11

Today's Topics:
	 Re: blakes7-d Digest V98 #312
	 Re: blakes7-d Digest V98 #309

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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:20:25 GMT
From: "Dita Stanistraken" <d.stanistraken@dundee.ac.uk>
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> Date:          Sun, 20 Dec 1998 01:11:18 +0100 (MET)
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> Subject:       blakes7-d Digest V98 #312
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> blakes7-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 312
> 
> Today's Topics:
> 	 Re: [B7L] worst cast
> 	 Re: [B7L] Re: Breakfast with Blake and Co.
> 	 Re: [B7L] Worst cast
> 	 [B7L] Re: the worst cast
> 	 RE: [B7L] Travis has three faces
> 	 [B7L] Re: Blakes Legend
> 	 [B7L] Re: Breakfast with Blake and Co
> 	 [B7L] Internet football
> 	 [B7L] UNCUT
> 	 [B7L] UK TV Monday
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 21:16:37 -0000
> From: "Dangermouse" <master@sol.co.uk>
> To: "Pat Patera" <pussnboots@geocities.com>, <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: [B7L] worst cast
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> ----------
> > From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
> > MOVIE. Only it has a nightmare cast! The worst actors for each role. The
> > following is for seasons one-two ... Be Afraid, be Very Afraid ...
> > 
> > BLAKES 7 THE MOVIE
> > Starring:
> > 
> > Roj Blake.........................William Shatner
> 
> Robert Beltran
> 
> > Kerr Avon.........................Steven Segal
> 
> Alex Enberg
> 
> > Jenna Stannis.....................Pamela Anderson Lee
> 
> Ditto
> 
> > Cally.............................Madeline Stowe
> 
> Winona Ryder
> 
> > Villa Restal......................Adam Sandler
> 
> John Leguizamo
> 
> > Olag Gan..........................Sylvester Stalone
> 
> Dolph Lundgren
> 
> > ORAC..............................Arnold Schwartzenegger
> 
> voice of Lloyd Grossman.
> 
> Zen voiced by Emo Phillips
> 
> Tarrant: Leo DiCraprio
> 
> Soolin: Gena Lee Nolan
> 
>  > Servalan..........................Roseanne Barr
> 
> Louise Fletcher
> 
> > Travis(I).........................Bruce Willis
> 
> Charles Napier
> 
> > Travis(II)........................Keanu Reeves
> 
> ditto
> 
> > Crew:
> > Directed by.......................Micheal Bay (The Rock & Armegeddon)
> 
> Nah, that'd be great. Worst choice director: Joel Schumacher
> 
> > Written by........................Branon Braga (ST) & Micheal Piller
> > (ST)
> 
> Akiva Goldsman (Piller good, Braga bad...)
> 
> > Music by..........................John Carpenter
> 
> Eliot Goldenthal or that French git whos name I forget who did the crap
> score for Goldeneye.
>  
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 19:00:51 +0000
> From: Julia Jones <julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Breakfast with Blake and Co.
> Message-ID: <gcY$PBAjZqe2EwVp@jajones.demon.co.uk>
> 
> In message <19981217221542.4306.qmail@hotmail.com>, Joanne MacQueen
> <j_macqueen@hotmail.com> writes
> >Curt "by name and nature" Holland I 
> >could do without, actually, but if the author likes him a lot, as she 
> >seems to...<grin>
> 
> Some of us quite enjoyed the none-too-subtle BUARA scene in that book...
> -- 
> Julia Jones
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 23:21:02 +0000 (GMT)
> From: "U.M. Mccormack" <umm10@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Worst cast
> Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95q.981218231349.19641A-100000@red.csi.cam.ac.uk>
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> Neil said:
> 
> > SPECIAL GUEST ROLE
> > Justin - Peter Byrne
> 
> Watch it, sunshine. Animal Lovers patrol this area. 
> 
> 
> My worst cast/crew?
> 
> B7 - the movie
> Written by Barry Letts
> Directed by Brian Lighthill
> 
> Tho' it is Xmas and we shouldn't be uncharitable.
> 
> Una
> 
> PS I now have digital TV. Anyone offering bribes for the 'Over the Moon'
> video?
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 11:18:35 +1100
> From: "Afenech" <Fenech@onaustralia.com.au>
> To: "lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: [B7L] Re: the worst cast
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> Una said:
>  
> > My worst cast/crew?
>  
> > B7 - the movie
> > Written by Barry Letts
> > Directed by Brian Lighthill
> > Tho' it is Xmas and we shouldn't be uncharitable.
> 
> Oh I don't know, Christmas or no we should tell the truth and this is
> naught but truth Una -smile- it is the *worst* imaginable!
> 
> Pat F
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 18:49:20 PST
> From: "Penny Dreadful" <pdreadful@hotmail.com>
> To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: RE: [B7L] Travis has three faces
> Message-ID: <19981219024921.22771.qmail@hotmail.com>
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> Judith said:
> 
> >My story really falls down where Blake meets Brian Croucher's Travis in 
> Weapon. 
> >UNless he just figured that Travis had had plastic surgery but they had 
> been
> >unable to fix his eye.  After all, a man with an eyepatch, standing 
> next to
> >Servalan and obviously wanting to kill Blake does tend to strongly 
> suggest an
> >identity.  It's still the weakest point though.
> 
> Maybe, with the brain-printing/wiping/swapping/screwing-with technology 
> they have and take for granted in the time of B7, people no longer 
> equate mind and body. Maybe someone's mind turning up one day in an 
> entirely different body is no more unusual to them than someone's face 
> turning up with a new nose is to us. So if in this future old habits die 
> harder than old bodies do, Blake would naturally rely on context (as you 
> say above) *more* than physical appearance to identify Travis. Different 
> face, different voice, same fashion sense...
> 
> -- Penny "You Can't Go Wrong With A Black Leather Leotard" Dreadful
> 
> ______________________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:02:33 +0100
> From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@MCR1.poptel.org.uk>
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: [B7L] Re: Blakes Legend
> Message-ID: <367B95D6.17E4B53B@mcr1.poptel.org.uk>
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> m asked: "the last time I was on this group there was talk of a
> fan video called Blake's Legend which might even feature a cameo from an
> old
> cast member..could someone fill me in on any new news regarding this?"
> 
> Some clips from this were shown at Who's 7 in 1996. Last year at a
> London Horizon meeting we were told that all the filming had been done
> and it was just the final editing to do and that it would be ready by
> Deliverance. That didn't happen and I've heard nothing since.
> --
> cheers
> Steve Rogerson
> 
> Redemption 99: The Blakes 7 and Babylon 5 convention
> 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Ashford, Kent
> http://www.smof.com/redemption/
> 
> "Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell"
> Star Wars
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 09:50:30 -0500
> From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
> To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: [B7L] Re: Breakfast with Blake and Co
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> Joanne wrote:
> >Given that Gan has to keep up that enormous strength of his, I suggest 
> >the full English breakfast you see the gentry consuming in Agatha 
> >Christie adaptations and the like. You know the sort of thing - bacon 
> >and eggs and toast and kippers and kidneys and cooked tomatoes and 
> >(waffle on ad nauseam).
> 
> Given that I won breakfast with David Jackson at Deliverance, I ought to be
> able to comment on this... but all I can remember is that I couldn't get
> any mushrooms.  We certainly had a cooked breakfast, but I didn't look very
> hard at what he was eating.
> 
> Harriet
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 08:03:13 PST
> From: "Rob Clother" <whitehorse_dream@hotmail.com>
> To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: [B7L] Internet football
> Message-ID: <19981219160313.9981.qmail@hotmail.com>
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> 
> This is just a thought, but...
> 
> Do any UK fans have connections with the Star Trek fan base?  Or, at 
> least, is anyone out there willing to admit they know someone who does?  
> And if so, would anyone be interested in trying to organise a 
> Blakey/Trekkie football match?  It would be a fun complement to the 
> regular Pages Bar get-togethers (which I consistently manage to miss, 
> for one reason or another).
> 
> I'm going to unsub for Christmas on Monday -- if anyone follows up to 
> this message, please leave my address in the recipients' field...
> 
> Have a smashing Christmas, everyone, and I'll "see" you in the New Year.
> 
> -- Rob
> 
> PS.  Murray and Una, I do intend to follow up to your posts, but please 
> be patient, as it's going to have to wait until January.
> 
> PPS. Pat, I think Marvin would detest Zen -- more later.
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 19:33:19 +0000
> From: cj <rollingthunder@net.ntl.com>
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: [B7L] UNCUT
> Message-ID: <367BFF7F.5D207635@net.ntl.com>
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> Looking at mt collection of Blakes 7 vidos, I see that a most of the
> videos say "Contains 2 complete unedited episodes".  Can anyone tell me
> exactly which episodes in the series have been edited and what exactly
> has been removed from them?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> --
> --------------------------
> "The old pond
> A frog jump in -
> Plop!"
> --------------------------
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 19:07:27 -0500
> From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com>
> To: Space City <space-city@world.std.com>,
>         "Blake's 7 (Lysator)" <BLAKES7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: [B7L] UK TV Monday
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> Have we already mentioned that Clive James is taking "a wry look" at TV
> sci-fi on ITV, Monday night at ten, rumoured to involve Jackie Pearce?
> 
> Harriet
> 
> --------------------------------
> End of blakes7-d Digest V98 Issue #312
> **************************************
> 
Dita, President and Supreme Commander of the Terran Federation.

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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:20:00 GMT
From: "Dita Stanistraken" <d.stanistraken@dundee.ac.uk>
To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se, blakes7@lysator.liu.se
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> Date:          Wed, 16 Dec 1998 12:22:58 +0100 (MET)
> From:          blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se
> Subject:       blakes7-d Digest V98 #309
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> blakes7-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 309
> 
> Today's Topics:
> 	 Re: [B7L] Breakfast with Blake and Co.
> 	 [B7L] What does 'Duel' Tell Us...
> 	 [B7L]Re:Travis has three faces
> 	 Re: [B7L]Re:Travis has three faces
> 	 Re: [B7L] Breakfast with Blake and Co.
> 	 Re: [B7L] Breakfast with Blake and Co.
> 	 Re: [B7L] Avon the genius?
> 	 Re: [B7L] What does 'Duel' Tell Us...
> 	 [B7L] Re: Gotcha
> 	 [B7L] Re: Gotcha
> 	 Re: [B7L] What does 'Duel' Tell Us...
> 	 [B7L] Blake's 7 Survey Site
> 	 Re: [B7L] Re: Gotcha
> 	 Re: [B7L] Re: Travis has three faces
> 	 [B7L] Attention Blake Fans
> 	 Re: [B7L] Breakfast with Blake and Co.
> 	 Re: [B7L] Breakfast with Blake and Co.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 00:48:42 PST
> From: "Penny Dreadful" <pdreadful@hotmail.com>
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Breakfast with Blake and Co.
> Message-ID: <19981215084843.11679.qmail@hotmail.com>
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> >Bugger it, can't think of one for Zen.  Anyone got a dictionary?
> >
> >-- Rob
> 
> Having read the Z's end to end in mine I see a trend of z-adjectives 
> tending to express...well, "zany","zesty","zealous"...energy and 
> enthusiasm, which do not equate in my mind with Zen. Zaftig? Mmm, no. 
> "Zero-Zeal Zen" is the best I can do.
> 
> -Penny "The Kind Of Person Who Reads The Dictionary For Fun" Dreadful
> 
> ______________________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 01:33:16 PST
> From: "Penny Dreadful" <pdreadful@hotmail.com>
> To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: [B7L] What does 'Duel' Tell Us...
> Message-ID: <19981215093317.9866.qmail@hotmail.com>
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> 
> Judith sez:
> 
> >As far as studying character goes, what does 'Duel' tell us about 
> Travis?
> 
> ["Hi-Lites" horrible illustration: Blake dialoguing sincerely with Giroc 
> and Sinofar on Planet Krispikrunch while Travis fumes and tries stamping 
> his foot]:
> Goofus mouths off to the omnipotent alien ghosts.
> Gallant tries to open a line of communication with the omnipotent alien 
> ghosts.
> 
> [illustration: B & T up their respective trees with their respective 
> gal-pals]:
> Goofus enjoys picking on his underling.
> Gallant treats his underling with consideration.
> 
> [illustrations: self-explanatory]
> Goofus takes unfair advantage of his opponent's externally-induced 
> disorientation.
> Gallant spares his opponent, even though he's beaten him fair and 
> square.
> 
> In conclusion, 'Duel' teaches us that Travis is a bad man. And reminds 
> me how much I always hated that smarmy little Gallant. Even at the age 
> of eight I'm sure I could extrapolate his Brett Easton Ellis future.
> 
> -Penny "Die, Roadrunner, Die!" Dreadful
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 14:10:54 -0000
> From: "Julie Horner" <julie.horner@lincolnsoftware.com>
> To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: [B7L]Re:Travis has three faces
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> Judith said:
> 
> >There's an interesting comment in 'Weapon' where Travis refers to his
> visits to
> >the 'retraining therapist'. What's that about? Did it involve some kind of
> >mental manipulation. On days when I'm treating the two Travisis as separate
> >individuals (which I do occasionally for purposes of writing a story) then
> I
> >assume that the 'retraining' was to make the second man believe that he
> >was the
> >first as this is the first episode in which Brian Croucher appears. The
> first
> >Travis became unstable or died in a fight or accident (or Servalan had him
> >killed). Brain prints are a given technology in Blake's 7, as is memory
> >adjustment, so it woud not be impossible to create a second Travis. The
> fact
> >that Servalan used the first Blake clone to test Travis is also indicative.
> Why
> >test unless you have a reason to? And what was the involvement of the
> >clonemasters? Did they create the second Travis as well as the Blake
> clones?
> 
> That is a really interesting theory but surely if the clonemasters had
> created
> the second Travis they would have made him look like the first (after all
> they managed that with Blake)
> 
> Also how would one explain the fact that other characters knew that it
> was Travis?
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: 15 Dec 1998 15:23:16 +0100
> From: Calle Dybedahl <qdtcall@esavionics.se>
> To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: [B7L]Re:Travis has three faces
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> "Julie Horner" <julie.horner@lincolnsoftware.com> writes:
> 
> > That is a really interesting theory but surely if the clonemasters
> > had created the second Travis they would have made him look like the first
> 
> Servalan ordered the new Travis. From _Seek, Locate, Destroy_:
> 
>   TRAVIS:  [Chuckles] What are you suggesting, cosmetic surgery? I'm a
>            field officer, not one of your decorative staff men.
> SERVALAN:  You're certainly not decorative.
>   TRAVIS:  You find it repulsive?
> SERVALAN:  I find it ... unpleasing.
> 
> -- 
>    Calle Dybedahl, qdtcall@esavionics.se, http://www.lysator.liu.se/~calle/
>       Truth is stranger than fiction, because fiction has to make sense.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:51:10 -0800
> From: Pat Patera <pussnboots@geocities.com>
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Breakfast with Blake and Co.
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> Penny Dreadful wrote:
> > "Zero-Zeal Zen" is the best I can do.
> 
> ha ha he ho 
> I can see Zen and Marvin (the robot from the Douglas Adams books) having
> what they consider a scintiallting conversation. It would read like
> Waiting for Godot.
> I'm passing out from the boredom of it all right now!
> Pat P
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:50:35 +1100
> From: Kathryn Andersen <kat@welkin.apana.org.au>
> To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Breakfast with Blake and Co.
> Message-ID: <19981215225035.20831@welkin.apana.org.au>
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> 
> Of course, what this Subject made me think of, when I first saw it
> lined up in my mailbox was, exactly, _breakfast with Blake and Co_.
> So, what do you think each of the characters would eat for breakfast?
> 
> * Avon's probably a coffee person.
> * Cally, naturally, would have a special museli blend that she makes
> herself, and fresh fruit when she can get it.
> * Vila probably has one of those nauseatingly sweet and
> brightly-coloured cereals which comes with a free toy.  Either Fruit
> Loops or one of those numerous US cereals that you can't get over
> here.
> * Gan would be an eggs-and-bacon-on-toast sort of person.
> 
> Any more ideas?
> 
> -- 
>  _--_|\	    | Kathryn Andersen		<kat@welkin.apana.org.au>
> /      \    | 		http://home.connexus.net.au/~kat
> \_.--.*/    | #include "standard/disclaimer.h"
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> ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere
> Maranatha!  |	-> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 14:04:55 EST
> From: Tigerm1019@aol.com
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon the genius?
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> Deborah, I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
> I'm willing to concede that Avon was a very smart man and that he was very
> good in his areas of expertise, but despite all the persuasive arguments that
> have been presented, I still wouldn't call him a genius.  This list would be
> boring if everyone agreed on everything. :-)
> 
> Tiger M
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 19:20:47 +0100 (BST)
> From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
> To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: [B7L] What does 'Duel' Tell Us...
> Message-ID: <Marcel-1.46-1215182047-ab5Rr9i@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
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> 
> On Tue 15 Dec, Penny Dreadful wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > In conclusion, 'Duel' teaches us that Travis is a bad man. And reminds 
> > me how much I always hated that smarmy little Gallant. Even at the age 
> > of eight I'm sure I could extrapolate his Brett Easton Ellis future.
> 
> I think I get rather different things from the episode.  It's a little bit more
> subtle than the very obvious good guy/bad guy things you can draw from it.
> 
> For instance, Giroc is fascinated by Travis and there's a slight degree of
> chemistry between Sinofer and Blake.  What causes the attraction in each case? 
> Why were Sinnofer and Giroc chosen as representatives of their race?
> 
> Does Blake refuse to kill Travis because he's the 'good bloke' or because he
> doesn't want to provide free entertainment for Giroc?  I always saw a little bit
> of the latter in his actions, though some of his motivation was undoubtedly a
> desire to avoid murder.
> 
> Why is Travis so interested in Keera?  Is it simply that he's bored and wants to
> pass the time?  Is he feeling his own mortality and wanting something capable of
> humanity to talk to?  Or did he know her before she became a mutoid?  (That's a
> very easy conclusion to draw from what he says)
> 
> The second option is the one I feel is the most likely.  Travis is human and
> even he (with his normal preference for working with mutoids) wants real company
> on occasion.
> 
> We're seeing more than ethics in the combat scenes, we're also seeing training. 
> Travis was trained to fight.  In a combat situation, you don't hesitate, if your
> opponent is vulnerable, you go for him.  Blake was a civilian and a former
> member of a party that tried to promote freedom, democracy, etc.  That tends to
> give you a handicap until you get used to being a terrorist - which Blake
> eventually did.  (Please let's not get into arguments of just what a terrorist
> is - save that one for another day - it tends to do the rounds about once a year
> in any case)
> 
> Judith
> -- 
> http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7
> 
> Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention  
> 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
> http://www.smof.com/redemption/
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 00:09:26 +0100
> From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@MCR1.poptel.org.uk>
> To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> CC: Dangermouse <master@sol.co.uk>
> Subject: [B7L] Re: Gotcha
> Message-ID: <3676EC23.8306971F@mcr1.poptel.org.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> 
> Meredith said: "I just saw Dangermouse's rejoinder to Calle -- that the
> Internet
> snowball he sent was "not a chain letter."  It most certainly *is* a
> chain letter; I've seen those confounded snowballs all over the net, and
> I'm glad Calle spoke up in response. I didn't find the "Internet
> snowball fight" particularly funny the first time -- several weeks ago,
> by the way -- that I received a posting, and the joke definitely hasn't
> improved with age."
> 
> I found it quite amusing and forwarded it to a number of friends. I
> think you are being seriously over sensitive here. David, I'm sure,
> posted this just to add a little festive cheer, which is the way I took
> it. I hope David doesn't (or hasn't) leave the list; that would be a
> shame. But if he has the real shame is that people for some reason think
> is their role to attack people for having a laugh. If you want to drive
> people out of fandom you are going the right way about it.
> --
> cheers
> Steve Rogerson
> 
> Redemption 99: The Blakes 7 and Babylon 5 convention
> 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Ashford, Kent
> http://www.smof.com/redemption/
> 
> "Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell"
> Star Wars
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 00:14:36 -0000
> From: "Dangermouse" <master@sol.co.uk>
> To: <steve.rogerson@MCR1.poptel.org.uk>, <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: [B7L] Re: Gotcha
> Message-Id: <199812160045.AAA23092@gnasher.sol.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> 
> ----------
> > From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@MCR1.poptel.org.uk>
> > I hope David doesn't (or hasn't) leave the list; that would be a
> > shame. 
> 
> Well, I tried, but even though I sent the unsubscribe message the same way
> I do when I'm going away for a while, I got a message saying I'd done it
> wrong...
> 
> Oh, and Clive James' SF edition with Jackie pearce is on Monday 21st.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:18:59 PST
> From: "Penny Dreadful" <pdreadful@hotmail.com>
> To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: Re: [B7L] What does 'Duel' Tell Us...
> Message-ID: <19981216011859.18207.qmail@hotmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> Judith, the voice of reason, said:
> 
> >It's a little bit more
> >subtle than the very obvious good guy/bad guy things you can draw from 
> it.
> 
> I like 'Duel'. It's grown on me over the years (All those coloured 
> lights still make me queasy, though). The Goofus & Gallant analogy is a 
> flashback to the first time I saw it.
> 
> >Why is Travis so interested in Keera?
> 
> I always saw that as a seriously inept come-on. A hostile, half-hearted 
> pick-up line. It's in keeping with my diagnosis of Travis' personality 
> disorder (I'm not a psychologist, but I *do* have a second-hand copy of 
> the "DSM-III-R Training Guide"). And I think after being "rejected" by 
> the poor thing his pointless refusal to let her drink Jenna's blood is 
> subconscious revenge.
> 
> >Travis was trained to fight.  In a combat situation, you don't 
> hesitate, if your
> >opponent is vulnerable, you go for him.
> 
> That's a good point - hadn't occurred to me. Although frequently Travis 
> does pause to make a little premature victory speech before (not) 
> killing Blake.
> 
> -Penny "Tell Me About Your Childhood..." Dreadful
> 
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:03:53 EST
> From: BugEyes1@aol.com
> To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: [B7L] Blake's 7 Survey Site
> Message-ID: <25d9ad8f.367706f9@aol.com>
> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
> 
> I stumbled across this site and thought I would share it with everyone.  The
> address is http://www.swd.net.au/cgi-bin/geos/episodes.cgi/index/bl7.  It is a
> survey site where you can rate all the episodes of Blake's 7 along with alot
> of other sci-fi shows. 
> 
> Hannah
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:43:43 -0600
> From: "Lorna B." <msdelta@magnolia.net>
> To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Gotcha
> Message-Id: <199812160335.VAA06951@pemberton.magnolia.net>
> 
> Meredith said <after some snipping>
> 
> >I didn't find the "Internet
> >snowball fight" particularly funny the first time -- several weeks ago,
> >by the way -- that I received a posting, and the joke definitely hasn't
> >improved with age."
> 
> Steve R. said:
> 
> >I found it quite amusing and forwarded it to a number of friends. I
> >think you are being seriously over sensitive here. David, I'm sure,
> >posted this just to add a little festive cheer, which is the way I took
> >it. I hope David doesn't (or hasn't) leave the list; that would be a
> >shame. But if he has the real shame is that people for some reason think
> >is their role to attack people for having a laugh. If you want to drive
> >people out of fandom you are going the right way about it.
> 
> FWIW, I get sick of the blasted things too, and also consider them a type of
> spam.  After receiving multiple copies of the same over several lists, I'm
> sure a lot of recipients find their tempers getting rather short.
> 
> Calle handled it appropriately and diplomatically.  Thanks, Calle.
> 
> Lorna B.
> "Cookies and porn?  You're the best mom ever!"
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 00:32:20 -0500
> From: "Kimberly D. Ashford" <thesseli@msn.com>
> To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Travis has three faces
> Message-ID: <0361d16350510c8UPIMSSMTPUSR05@email.msn.com>
> 
> >>(lots of stuff snipped)
> 
> On days when I'm treating the two Travisis as separate
> >individuals (which I do occasionally for purposes of writing a story) then
> I
> >assume that the 'retraining' was to make the second man believe that he was
> the
> >first as this is the first episode in which Brian Croucher appears
> 
> 
> This is the premise of a story I'm writing, by the way...
> 
> 
> 
> Kim
> 
> PS: Travis also has three limbs.  :)
> -----
> Visit the Starbucket website at
> http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Labyrinth/5508/stories.html
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 98 05:24:00 GMT 
> From: s.thompson8@genie.com
> To: space-city%world.std.com%inet02#@genie.com
> Cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
> Subject: [B7L] Attention Blake Fans
> Message-Id: <199812160541.FAA26106@rock103.genie.net>
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> I just found a note to myself regarding something I meant to post just after
> Eclecticon, but forgot about.  Anyway, here it is at last:
> 
> Marion McChesney has for sale a beautiful Suzan Lovett color original that
> was the cover artwork for =Powerplay= #2.  It's a full-color allegorical
> fantasy showing Blake as an armored knight on horseback fighting the dragon
> of the Federation.  She is willing to sell it for what she paid for it,
> namely U.S. $300 (plus whatever it costs to pack it safely and ship it to
> the buyer).
> 
> IMO Suzan is absolutely the best fan artist when it comes to likenesses of
> Blake.
> 
> If you're interested, e-mail Marion for details at:
>  napasha@aol.com
> 
> (Can we guess what fandom she's into these days?!)
> 
> Sarah T.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:56:19 +0100 (BST)
> From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
> To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Breakfast with Blake and Co.
> Message-ID: <Marcel-1.46-1215195619-b07Rr9i@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII
> 
> On Tue 15 Dec, Kathryn Andersen wrote:
> > Of course, what this Subject made me think of, when I first saw it
> > lined up in my mailbox was, exactly, _breakfast with Blake and Co_.
> > So, what do you think each of the characters would eat for breakfast?
> 
> Travis - Blake's guts
> 
> Cally - croissant and coffee (because she's an alien and a continental breakfast
> is still 'alien' to Brits <grin>) 
> 
> Vila - definitely the bright cereal/confectionary with free plastic spaceman
> etc.
> 
> Blake - my husband votes for porridge (because he was stirring...).
> 
> Jenna - on a diet.  Grapefruit and yoghurt.
> 
> Judith
> 
> -- 
> http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7
> 
> Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention  
> 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
> http://www.smof.com/redemption/
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 22:09:15 +1100
> From: Kathryn Andersen <kat@welkin.apana.org.au>
> To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
> Subject: Re: [B7L] Breakfast with Blake and Co.
> Message-ID: <19981216220915.05673@welkin.apana.org.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> -----Forwarded message from Tigerm1019@aol.com-----
> 
> In a message dated 98-12-15 14:21:31 EST, Kathryn wrote:
> 
> << So, what do you think each of the characters would eat for breakfast?
>   >>
> 
> *Tarrant and Dayna both strike me as the pancakes or toast, fruit, eggs and
> coffee or tea type people.
> 
> *Soolin doesn't eat breakfast.
> 
> *When Jenna eats breakfast, it's probably toast, fruit and coffee, if that
> much.
> 
> *Blake probably eats oatmeal or cereal and juice and coffee.
> 
> Tiger M
> 
> -----End of forwarded message-----
> 
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