From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V98 #79 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume98/79 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 79 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L] Re: worst first lines Re: [B7L] Re: worst first lines Re: [B7L] Re: worst first lines Re: [B7L] Re: worst first lines Re: [B7L] Re: worst first lines [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] re:?????? again [B7L] re: absolutely nothing [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] Smoking [B7L] Vila's Accepting Ways [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] [B7L] re: video Tapes [B7L] psuedonyms [B7L] re: Videos -YKYHBWTMB7W you want to buy another set Re: [B7L] Decisions, decisions [B7L] Desperately in need of awful B7 fanfiction! [B7L] Re: SC: re: absolutely nothing [B7L] B7 Bit from The IDIC Epidemic [B7L] Vila's acceptings ways [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V98 #78 [B7L] B7 and Dad's Army Re: [B7L] Vila's accepting nature Re: [B7L] theory Re: [B7L] re: `Allo, `Allo, zis is Avon Calling London Re: [B7L] B7 and Dad's Army Re: [B7L] Re: worst first lines Re: [B7L] (fwd) [B7L] videos [B7L] Video tapes ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:46:10 -0500 (EST) From: arobinso@iupui.edu To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se cc: drax@phoenix.evansville.edu Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: worst first lines Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Reuben Herfindahl wrote: > I thought that was reserved for "Previously on Dukes of Hazard"..... > > > Reuben And why not? Previously on Rebels of Hazzard.... "Yee-haw!" shouted Avon as he slid in the Liberator's passenger-side window while his cousin Blake shot flaming arrows out the aft lock through the void and directly into the path of the flotilla of pursuit ships, causing a three-ship pileup, and leggy cousin Cally distracted the lovestruck Deputy Travis by flashing her short-shorts out the back window, until the whole family were whooping maniacally at the sound of Sheriff Servalan's voice coming over the comm: "You... you... Dad-gummed Blake boys...Flotilla 13? Y'all got yer ears on? Well keep an eye out fer a big ole' alien ship with a Confederate flag painted on the top...." Amy A. Robinson (who ALWAYS knew Bo was the cute one) Insanity isn't hereditary- it's a lifestyle choice. arobinso@iupui.edu scylla@phoenix.evansville.edu The Mad Poetess poet, busybody, and finder of lost mittens ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:58:25 -0000 From: "Heather Smith" To: "Blake's 7" Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: worst first lines Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >> "Previously, on Star Trek: Voyager..." > >This is DEFINITELY a worst first line, for anything, B7 related, or not. > >:^) > > I thought that was reserved for "Previously on Dukes of Hazard"..... Hey, don't ya go knockin' that show, or I'll Set dem Duke boys on ya'...... Heather. 'There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish' -The fourth Doctor -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GIT/L/P/O d--? s-():(+) a--- C++(+++)>$ US@ P L E--- W++>+++ N++ !o K w+(---) O@ M- V PS+>$ PE Y+>++ PGP-- t-- 5+ X-(+) R(-)* tv b++++ DI+ D++ G++>+++ e->+++++ h++ r? x- ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:34:15 -0600 From: "Reuben Herfindahl" To: , Cc: Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: worst first lines Message-ID: <016101bd4b92$58b690f0$660114ac@misnt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: arobinso@iupui.edu To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Cc: drax@phoenix.evansville.edu Date: Monday, March 09, 1998 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: worst first lines > >On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Reuben Herfindahl wrote: > >> I thought that was reserved for "Previously on Dukes of Hazard"..... >> >> >> Reuben > >And why not? > >Previously on Rebels of Hazzard.... > >"Yee-haw!" shouted Avon as he slid in the Liberator's passenger-side >window while his cousin Blake shot flaming arrows out the aft lock through >the void and directly into the path of the flotilla of >pursuit ships, causing a three-ship pileup, and leggy cousin Cally >distracted the lovestruck Deputy Travis by flashing her short-shorts out >the back window, until the whole family were whooping maniacally at the >sound of Sheriff Servalan's voice coming over the comm: "You... you... >Dad-gummed Blake boys...Flotilla 13? Y'all got yer ears on? Well keep >an eye out fer a big ole' alien ship with a Confederate flag painted >on the top...." > ROFLMAO Reuben ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:08:10 -0000 From: "Heather Smith" To: "Blake's 7" Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: worst first lines Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > ROFLMAO I hate to be a thickie, but what do the last three letters stand for? (btw, I thought it was v. funny too, thanks for that Amy). Heather. 'There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish' -The fourth Doctor -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GIT/L/P/O d--? s-():(+) a--- C++(+++)>$ US@ P L E--- W++>+++ N++ !o K w+(---) O@ M- V PS+>$ PE Y+>++ PGP-- t-- 5+ X-(+) R(-)* tv b++++ DI+ D++ G++>+++ e->+++++ h++ r? x- ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:53:14 +1300 From: Nicola Collie To: B7-list Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: worst first lines Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Amy: >Previously on Rebels of Hazzard.... > >"Yee-haw!" shouted Avon as he slid in the Liberator's passenger-side >window while his cousin Blake shot flaming arrows out the aft lock through >the void and directly into the path of the flotilla of >pursuit ships, causing a three-ship pileup, and leggy cousin Cally >distracted the lovestruck Deputy Travis by flashing her short-shorts out >the back window, until the whole family were whooping maniacally at the >sound of Sheriff Servalan's voice coming over the comm: "You... you... >Dad-gummed Blake boys...Flotilla 13? Y'all got yer ears on? Well keep >an eye out fer a big ole' alien ship with a Confederate flag painted >on the top...." *clapclapclapclapclap* :-) >(who ALWAYS knew Bo was the cute one) Was Bo the blond one or the dark one? and is he Avon or Blake in the above snippet? ;-) ttfn, Nicola --- Nicola Collie Dunedin, New Zealand nicola.collie@stonebow.otago.ac.nz "It just occurred to me that, as the description of a highly sophisticated technological achievement, "Avon's gadget works" seems to lack a certain style." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:25:37 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092025.OAA15360@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:29:13 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092029.OAA16307@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:33:02 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092033.OAA16747@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:42:58 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092042.OAA18568@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:42:39 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092042.OAA18445@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:44:16 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092044.OAA18727@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:43:00 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092043.OAA18585@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:57:01 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092057.OAA20571@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 20:59:13 +0000 From: Jackie To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] re:?????? again Message-ID: <35045821.3314@termlow.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ah ha! Achevron puts all us 53 SCers in deep trouble, and the mystery poster comes back again! Some-one definately is haveing trouble with the internet!! (maybe the escaping oxygen on the Signaf is interfering with the radio signals!) Bye Jackie PS I am in no way shape or form blaming Achevron for the nuisance posts, just trying to be *funny*. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 21:09:07 +0000 From: Jackie To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se CC: space-city@world.std.com Subject: [B7L] re: absolutely nothing Message-ID: <35045A73.F95@termlow.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A quick question? Which list has received about 3 posts with just a date sent? Which knowledgeable person can tell me: how come, with no forwarding address, can this message be actually sent through the email system? Interested Jackie PS please keep the answers very simple. I am interested in an answer, but not intelligent enough to understand anything complicated. Ta ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:35:48 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092035.OAA17428@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:34:48 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092134.PAA26047@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:39:25 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092139.PAA27159@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 13:16:00 -0800 From: "PATTI McCLELLAN" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Smoking Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Content-Disposition: inline I quite agree -- smoking IS nasty, self-destructive, futile and smelly. And Soolin would no doubt curl her lip contemptuously. I also understand that you were expressing your honest opinion and that you and Darren were fooling around. I merely wish to suggest, no urge, you to a certain circumspection when condemning an entire class of people. It would be horribly embarassing to be caught telling a scurrilous joke about black people without realizing that there were some in the room. I assure you, there are smokers in the room. Nor am I saying that you should not express yourself free and fully. You should! However, you should not be surprised if someone takes your honesty for brutal thoughtlessness. Why would I have deleted the message before I read it? All information is useful. I do know it was not your intent to cause pain. I know you were just mucking about. And perhaps I overreacted. If so, I am very sorry. I am speaking from the point of view of someone (who, by the way, lost her mother to cancer from smoking) who believes that kindness is the glue of civilization. Perhaps I could suggest you might hate the sin and not the sinner? Many of us started smoking before anyone (except perhaps the tobacco companies) knew that it was lethal. It might be fair to think ill of people who start smoking now. All the cards are on the table. I disagree with you about contempt and compassion not being mutually exclusive. Now if you mean it that you expect people to be offensive on this list, I am on the wrong list. Before I shut up about this forever, you have my sympathies on the loss of your parents. My mother took 2 years to die. I was her primary care giver. I know what you went through. I guess the bottom line of the whole discussion for me is this: The world is a pretty crappy place anyway. I don't expect you or anyone else to be a pollyanna. But maybe not to be a judgmental, self-righteous person either. If you've never been through nicotine withdrawal, you dont' know the whole story. Patti ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 15:45:00 -0800 From: "PATTI McCLELLAN" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Vila's Accepting Ways Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Content-Disposition: inline I always thought the decision was made to cut the crying with the rating only as an excuse, the real reason being that the decision was made by men, and men don't cry. In other words it *made them feel something*, so it couldn't be good for little boys to see it. Well, macho men who make big decisions about TV series don't cry. Do they? Patti ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:33:49 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092033.OAA17007@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:26:18 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092026.OAA15587@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:35:18 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092035.OAA17145@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:35:27 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092035.OAA17237@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:11:50 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092111.PAA23224@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:35:42 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092035.OAA17355@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:33:05 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092033.OAA16772@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:57:24 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092057.OAA20753@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:26:06 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092026.OAA15487@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:57:21 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092057.OAA20729@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:35:35 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092035.OAA17289@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:33:03 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092033.OAA16759@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:25:59 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092025.OAA15460@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:57:27 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092057.OAA20777@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:26:08 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092026.OAA15512@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:57:19 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092057.OAA20705@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:57:31 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092057.OAA20802@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:35:45 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092035.OAA17398@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:35:20 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092035.OAA17171@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:57:43 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092057.OAA20873@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:57:34 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092057.OAA20824@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:11:36 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092111.PAA23127@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:35:25 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092035.OAA17219@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:33:36 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092033.OAA16945@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:33:33 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092033.OAA16921@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:57:13 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092057.OAA20669@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:33:31 -0600 (CST) From: blakes7-request@lysator.liu.se To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Message-Id: <199803092033.OAA16897@dragon.ti.com> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 20:41:59 +0000 From: Jackie To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] re: video Tapes Message-ID: <35045417.513C@termlow.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alison Page wrote: > > Steve - > > > Sorry to disapoint you but WH Smith's charts are not based on > > sales. The chart is made up by the marketing people and is just > > what they want to push that week. > > 'Why, of all the devious..' > > Thanks for letting me know. They don't miss a trick do they? > > Alison I found the same in Jan, when I went to buy a copy of the play. The girl could`nt find a reference of it anywhere, so asked a fellow worker. Who replied that is was on their "best seller" list. I asked how it could be on their best seller list when a) they did not have any copies; b) never had any copies (and so could not have sold out) & c) could not get hold of any copies until the end of Feb!! I was told that that was how they were "promotioning" it. Isn`t claimimg it to be on their best seller list when they hadn`t sold any, against the trade descriptions act? Bye Jackie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:41:35 +0000 (GMT) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: [B7L] psuedonyms Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII General reminder for new list members. If anyone writes slash or adult fanfic in zines under their own name and is worried about their name appearing on the web, please contact me and tell me what name you wish to appear under on my web page. We'll do this for gen fic too, but only if you're really worried - it seems unlikely that employers, etc. would worry about anyone writing non-sexual fiction. Judith PS. Remember that search engines take many months to update their records. When we remove something from the page, it may be a fair time before it vanishes from the search engines. -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 20:43:12 +0000 From: Jackie To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] re: Videos -YKYHBWTMB7W you want to buy another set Message-ID: <35045460.1B95@termlow.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Andrew Spong wrote: > > Dear all > > I'm in total agreement with Steve about having to resist 'investing' in the > new video release... I trudged round Watford on Saturday morning (not a > place you'd ever feel like skipping round, let's face it) trying to con > myself into buying vols. 1 and 2 by deploying a series of ever more risible > 'reasons' why I should be £21.98 worse off by lunchtime: > > '*Some* of my copies are getting a *bit* worn, and it might start bugging > me in a few years' became -- > > 'The sun has faded the spines of my BBCV set' (which it hasn't -- but I > have to admit to keeping the curtains drawn while I'm out just in case... > now I know I need therapy :-) ) > > 'What if one of my tapes shreds itself in my video? (and you can bet it > wouldn't be Stardrive/Animals ;-) ) I'd *have* to get a new set anyway; > that one rogue spine would really bug me'... > > '*All* of my copies are *really* worn and unwatchable'... > > 'Hostile aliens will invade the earth (a la _Mars Attacks_) and only those > who own both sets of videos will be spared'... > > So, did I, or didn't I? > > Well... I didn't -- but I can't help but feel that it's only a matter of > time. And I have to echo previous posters sentiments of a getting a fuzzy > glow about seeing racks of videos of our favourite show everywhere you > look. Reminds me of the first time around, c. 1992. It also made me > reflect on the pre-BBCV 'hungry years' between 1981 and 1992 when fans only > had their memories to remember the show by... any posters care to share > about those dark times? You spend a fortune on pirate copies. I had a complete set. Na Na Na Na! (on betamax!!) And when my friend transfered over to VHS I got her betamax collection as well. Even so, with 2 complete sets of pirate copies, I still wore out the begining of Rumours on both sets with repeated viewing. (in the long and distant past before I got a second VCR) > > I have to say that I think the 'special edition' sleeves are horrendous, > however. They've been printed on the sort of paper you normally push fancy > chocolate biscuits out of. What the hell are they supposed to be? > Holograms? A job lot of left overs from Alcan? > > I feel some more posts coming on. > > Cheers > > Andrew In view of your description, I might just hold off buying a second set (although I might get another copy of "Rumours" - just in case!!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 02:02:52 -0000 From: "Tom Forsyth" To: "B7 Lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Decisions, decisions Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Iain Coleman said: > I've never been to a con before, so I'm in the dark a bit here. I'm > imagining something like an astronomy conference, but with fewer lectures > and better dress sense. Bwahahahahah. He's a good one, this Iain. Better dress sense. Ah, it's the way he tells them. Tom Forsyth. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:51:05 EST From: DCsquared To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Desperately in need of awful B7 fanfiction! Message-ID: <4c22bd65.3504aa9c@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Here's an update on my Newbie Writer's Web page. The site is coming along nicely and is finally up on a server where I can test and edit it (a tedious process.) I have a few entries now in the "Expert Advice" section, the "Story Bits" section, and the "Examples of Good Writing" section. These are relatively easy to find as there is so much talent out there for me to sift through. However, I would love to have some examples of BAD writing. I found it very usefull to see examples of both good and bad in several writing books I have. Unfortunately, I am completely dependent on you "experts" out there to provide these for me. I don't mind asking someone to post samples of their good writing, but as a humble newbie, I am in no position to pass negative judgements on someone else's work. So, what you talented folks need to do is dig back into your archives and find something you wrote when you were just starting out - something truly terrible. Or maybe something from a first draft that was pitiful before you rewrote it into something wonderfull. I expect the only folks out there who might be willing to do this are the writers who've been doing this for a long time, and are secure enough in their skills now to admit to some "humble beginnings." Please, please don't send me any bad examples of anyone else's work. That would be tacky. I would be happy to post them anonymously, but it would be more fun to put your name on it and brag about how far you've come. If I can't find any bad B7, I'll resort to excerpts from writing texts, but it will be comparitively boring. Contributions in any category are welcome, as long as they are gen in nature. I don't want to have to fool around with watching out for minors. Thanks for all your help, Donna DCsquared@aol.com p.s. If you're really interested in seeing the site before you commit your material, e-mail me and I'll send you the site address. I'd rather wait to show it off to the public until it's in finished form, with all the links working and credits posted. ------------------------------ Date: 10 Mar 1998 06:31:34 +0100 From: Calle Dybedahl To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: SC: re: absolutely nothing Message-ID: Jackie writes: > A quick question? > Which list has received about 3 posts with just a date sent? The Lysator list. Send complaints to postmaster@dragon.ti.com > Which knowledgeable person can tell me: how come, with no forwarding > address, can this message be actually sent through the email system? There doesn't strictly have to be an address in the message for it to be delivered over the net, an address on the "envelope" is enough. -- Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se "I'd rather hang on to madness than normality" -- KaTe Bush ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 23:30:22 -0600 From: Reuben Herfindahl To: "blakes7@lysator.liu.se" Subject: [B7L] B7 Bit from The IDIC Epidemic Message-ID: <3504CFDC.75C5EF23@reuben.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After hearing that there was a Blake's 7 bit in Jean Lorrah's Star Trek novel, The IDIC Epidemic, that I so fondly remembered, I just had to read it again. I figured I'd quote the first bit of it in case anyone doesn't have the book. Remember this is copyrighted material, etc.... "Spock watched Landing Party Seven arive, six people drawn from engineering, computer sciences, medicine, economics, security and ship's stores. Kirk sometimes referred to this team as the 'IDIC party,' because their talants were so diversified, but the designation was actually one of the captain's jokes, for to hear them squabble you would think they could not agree on so much as who would stand on which transporter pad. Despite their disagreements, though, they were as efficent as any other team. They were directed by the engineer, Rogers, a portly man with curly brown hair. Running to the marine vehicle that landed just after them, they began to assemble it, thr giant security officer holding the pieces together by sheer strength while the two women in the party bolted them into place. Meanwhile, the third man assembled the onboard computer with almost Vulcan consentration, while the last member of the team, a small, nondescript sort of man, always had the right tools ready to hand to those who needed them." p. 232-233 The IDIC Epidemic by Jean Lorrah c 1988 Pocket Books Reuben reuben@reuben.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:23:44 +0100 (MET) From: "Jeroen J. Kwast" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se (mailing list) Subject: [B7L] Vila's acceptings ways Message-Id: <199803100823.JAA05542@pampus.gns.getronics.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I always thought the decision was made to cut the crying with the > rating only as an excuse, the real reason being that the decision was > made by men, and men don't cry. In other words it *made them > feel something*, so it couldn't be good for little boys to see > it. Well, macho men who make big decisions about TV series don't cry. > Do they? > Patti > Nope! Only when a loved one dies. Jeroen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:12:18 GMT From: Don Faller To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V98 #78 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:10:13 +1030 From: "Ophelia" To: "B7 list" Subject: [B7L] B7 and Dad's Army Message-ID: <01bd4bef$61789000$LocalHost@waltersmith> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Jackie wails - But Dad`s Army is full of OLD men, and I do not remember >any females of any age in it! Well, I can remember a couple, but names are a different matter. :) But who cares? Mix and match genders to your heart's content. It's a queer, queer world after all. >The only sugestion I can make is Capt Mainwaring is Blake, but that is >too obvious. The only "baddie" that I can recall is the air-raid >warden, so he would have to be either Servalan or Travis. Or the distant Germans, easily recognisable by their lax deportment and beady eyes, Lindley adds, remembering the episode with the Identification of the Enemy slide show/lecture. - XXX Lindley Ophelia - ophelia@picknowl.com.au "The girl has beauty, virtue, wit, Grace, humour, wisdom, charity and pluck." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:03:47 +1030 From: "Ophelia" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Vila's accepting nature Message-ID: <01bd4be6$1988d100$LocalHost@waltersmith> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Apologies if I get the acknowledgements wrong again - my mail program gives such a lot of junk with its quotes I just delete the attribution and wing it. [Iain]: < >Brilliant point! Never thought about this before, but you're right. >There is no way he could afford, in his life, to hold grudges. It's >resignation to his lot in life, not resentment. I agree with both Iain and Kathryn, here. But I'd add that I don't think it's *simply* realism about his lot in life. Vila really is a complete sweetie, who cares about people - one of the reasons I adore him and Lt. Gruber (OK, so I've got a one track mind) *is* that they say sorry before/after shooting people. As well as being screamingly funny, it shows that they hate causing pain/taking life, and feel empathy and consideration to people. It's a nice contrast to the habit of Dayna and Soolin, as well as most everyone else on telly and the pictures, of shooting first and considering the "enemy" as a human being later or not at all. (This is why, once my Anthropology essay on it was finished, I never watched Blade Runner again.) However, from experience, while this attutude/trait can make holding a grudge hard, it hurts and angers you even more if the person concerned doesn't react with similar grace. If they bring up the conflict or attack you again later, you slap back as hard and viciously as possible - then wallow in a mixture of guilt and self-justification afterwards. Back from generalities to B7, I think that if it had been Tarrant trying to ditch him out an airlock, Vila would have reacted with far more resentment. (I don't actually believe Tarrant *would* have done it, but that's a different matter.) Vila forgave Tarrant after "City," I think, because Tarrant was apologetic and nice after it. Vila, therefore, found it easier to forgive, forget and be friends. If Tarrant had abused him again, however, I think it would have been a different matter. Of course, this argument really depends on teh fact that I identify with Vila far more than with my revenge-driven Soolin, and that's what I would have done. [Narelle]: <> And if you/Vila are at all like me, if *they* behave like nothing ever happened you feel that it is in distinctly bad taste to bring your hurt feelings up... >That's for most things, anyway. Mortal wounds to the soul are another >matter. If Avon had tried to space me in 'Orbit' I may have even been able to stay mad at him for at least a month. :) > Nah, mortal wounds and crass stupidity alike are not unforgivable, but certainly unforgettable. (Not that I'm implying Avon was being crassly stupid. He was being far more sensible in that situation than I would ever be.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:06:38 +1030 From: "Ophelia" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] theory Message-ID: <01bd4bee$e1014b60$LocalHost@waltersmith> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [Helen]: >Continuing theories on why all the blank messages: >Zen is trying to send us direct communications, but not having the >palm-print interface, we cannot make computer-mind contact. (I wish >they'd done more with that business. Jenna and the ship kind of bonded, >and then no later references or plot material out of it.). Don't worry. I am currently considering writing a tragic romance. Zen, searching for his beloved Jenna, finally is forced to realise that she is lost forever, and he has to settle for ...Tarrant. - XXX Lindley Ophelia - ophelia@picknowl.com.au "The girl has beauty, virtue, wit, Grace, humour, wisdom, charity and pluck." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:14:34 +1030 From: "Ophelia" To: "B7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L] re: `Allo, `Allo, zis is Avon Calling London Message-ID: <01bd4bef$fce0cda0$LocalHost@waltersmith> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [Jackie, quoting Jenni quoting me]: >> > And what represents the Fallen >> > Madonna with the Big Boobies? >> >> How about The Liberator with the big Nacelles? >> >> Jenni > >BRILLIANT! wish I`d thought of it! Me too... It's too perfect. But..... how do you hide that in a >knockwest sausage??? Or down Hubert Gruber's pants? Or strapped onto Maria's bosom? ["There is nothing straightforward about you at all, is there, Lt. Gruber?!"] [Calle]: >You use a *really big* knockwurst, of course. Borrow Herr Flick's. According to Helga, it was th biggest she ever saw. - XXX Lindley Ophelia - ophelia@picknowl.com.au "The girl has beauty, virtue, wit, Grace, humour, wisdom, charity and pluck." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:39:08 +1030 From: "Ophelia" To: , "Jay" Subject: Re: [B7L] B7 and Dad's Army Message-ID: <01bd4beb$09737040$LocalHost@waltersmith> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well done, Alison and Jay, for some bloody marvellous casting. >>Jones, belligerent and over-active in a way reminiscent of Scrappy Doo, >>could be Dayna. I could be persuaded that he is actually Tarrant except >>that 'They don't like it up 'em' would clearly be an inappropriate >>catch-phrase in that context. > >Or maybe Soolin? Always ready with her gun. Nah, not the ice goddess. She's way too detached and ironic to be Jones, trigger-happy as she is. That is, if Jones is who I think he is, which is far from certain. Must dig up the videos I gave Nanna last Christmas. >I was thinking Pike was Tarrant, mainly because of the youthful looks, but >I can't see Tarrant running home to ask his Mum everytime they go out. :-) Nope? I can. (I *definitely* remember Pike. Whatttababe. - XXX Lindley Ophelia - ophelia@picknowl.com.au "The girl has beauty, virtue, wit, Grace, humour, wisdom, charity and pluck.". > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:37:36 -0500 (EST) From: arobinso@iupui.edu To: B7-list Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: worst first lines Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Nicola Collie wrote: > Amy: > >Previously on Rebels of Hazzard.... > > > >"Yee-haw!" shouted Avon as he slid in the Liberator's passenger-side Nicola: > > *clapclapclapclapclap* > :-) > Amy: > >(who ALWAYS knew Bo was the cute one) Nicola: > Was Bo the blond one or the dark one? and is he Avon or Blake in the above > snippet? ;-) Amy: Bo was the blond one, and I guess he's Avon, he being fairer than Blake, though hardly blond! Both of them have aged rather well- John Schneider (Bo) occasionally shows up in TV movies, and Tom Wopat (Luke) is one of Cybill Shephard's ex-husbands on "Cybill". (Paul and Gareth have aged rather well too, of course!) Jenna would overall make a better Daisy Duke, of course, but Cally has better legs, and so deserved the honour. Pity there's no one to play Boss Hogg, unless I bumped everybody in the Federation up by one position (Boss Servalan, Sheriff Travis), but then who would Cally get to moon in her short shorts? ;-) Amy A. Robinson Insanity isn't hereditary- it's a lifestyle choice. arobinso@iupui.edu scylla@phoenix.evansville.edu The Mad Poetess poet, busybody, and finder of lost mittens ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:26:52 +0000 (GMT) From: Iain Coleman To: Lysator Subject: Re: [B7L] (fwd) Message-Id: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I really hadn't intended carrying on this discussion on the list, not because it isn't interesting but because it's irrevocably off-topic. However, I cannot in all conscience let this latest point go. I'm going to rant a bit, and I apologise in advance. I'm only writing this because it's something that I think is very important and that I feel strongly about, and because I would be failing in my duties as a scientist if I allowed these statements to go unchallenged in a public forum. I shall endeavour to make this my last post on this topic. On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Una McCormack wrote: > > This response to one of my messages came only to me, and Graham has asked > me to forward it to the mailing list. > > > > This message is spot on. I particularly like the stuff on > legitimation. People accept unquestioningly what scientists say, not > realizing that they have motives and are involved in legitimation. Such people are very silly. An > extreme example would be the way scientists working for tobacco > companies covered up their own findings. When someone comes along > and tries to say that science is a socio-cultural product like > anything else some scientists just can't take being knocked off their > pedistall. Just looked at the venom which has greeted constructivist > sociologists of science by some physicists. You don't have to be a > postmodernist to see that constructivist sociology of science has > given us new insights into the workings of this modern religion. What Graham has described is the so-called "Strong Programme" in the sociology of science. It is a programme which I, most other scientists and many philosophers and sociologists regard as intellectually bankrupt and unworthy of academic respect. The conclusions of these workers are either trivial, obvious or wrong. 1) "Scientific theories can never be proved true". This is trivially correct. Indeed, the ultimately provisional nature of scientific knowledge is not only appreciated by scientists, it is the cornerstone of scientific theory and practice. 2) "Scientists can be motivated by selfishness, avarice or dogmatism". This is obvious. Scientific method is a strategy for reaching some kind of provisional truth despite the impure motives of some workers (though scientists are by and large a fairly idealistic bunch: I think our low salaries are part of the reason for this idealism). Nobody with the slightest clue about science would be surprised by this desperately obvious point. 3) "Science is just a social construct, on a par with shamanism or astrology". This is wrong. The distinguishing feature of science is that it works. Indeed, that could even be taken as its defining feature. Science does correspond, in a well-defined, formal fashion, with the way nature actually behaves, and that is its great power. It feels rather strange to even debate this point via a communication medium made possible by electromagnetism and quantum mechanics. If we go back to the Myers-Briggs thing, scientists are generally INT types. Isn't it the case that these types don't suffer fools gladly? That's the source of the "venom" you perceive: the exasperation and contempt of idealistic yet sometimes intolerant people who find themselves being patronised by a small number of third-rate academic hacks. This strong programme is the other aspect of the physics envy to which I alluded earlier, only instead of trying to emulate the natural sciences these guys are trying to pretend they really aren't that big a deal after all. That's not to say that the sociology of science is not an interesting and respectable field of study, just that this minority of intellectual lightweights deseve the contempt they receive. You go and ask anyone who was in Hiroshima in 1945 if nuclear physics theory is an arbitrary social construction. Iain ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:15:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: [B7L] videos Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I just thought of another good excuse for buying the new videos if anyone wants one. I asked BBC books if they'd any plans to publish Blake's 7 novels. They said not at the present, but that there was a slight possibility if the video release went down well. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:30:33 GMT From: STEVE.ROGERSON@MCR1.poptel.org.uk To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Video tapes Message-Id: <398133303MCR1@MCR1.poptel.org.uk> Andrew said: "I'm in total agreement with Steve about having to resist 'investing' in the new video release." Well I managed to resist for a whole WEEK. But who could resist forever that limited edition sleeve and Woolies collector postcard. Note there are two sleeves on the new release with identical pictures, but the limited edition one is darker with a sort of metallic look to it. I think I'll keep this set unwatched in case I lose one of my old set (it did happen once that my video recorder ate one but luckily the second release were out at the time and it was easy to replace). Dangermouse asked: "Also, what is the extra footage that is reffered to in the ads in Previews?" There is nothing on the sleeve to suggest extra footage. cheers Steve Rogerson Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ "The workers united will never be ignited" Guards! Guards! - Terry Pratchett -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V98 Issue #79 *************************************