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blakes7-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 281

Today's Topics:
	 [B7L] Mission speed
	 Re: [B7L] Mission speed
	 [B7L] Admin stoppage
	 [B7L] Re: B7 characters and sermons
	 Re: [B7L] Admin stoppage
	 Re: [B7L] Re: B7 characters and sermons
	 [B7L] Message of Thanks/New Horizons
	 Re: [B7L] Re: Blake and diversity

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Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 15:06:23 +0100
From: Steve Rogerson <steve.rogerson@MCR1.poptel.org.uk>
To: Lysator <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Mission speed
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My friend Gavin sent me this. Any thoughts?

"Based on what Avon says in "Mission to Destiny", if a ship is taking 5
months
to cross X amount of space at "sub-light" speeds, (let's say 75% light
speed
for the sake of it - Yes, I know that's still a HECK of a lot!) and the
Liberator can make the same journey in 4 days then, by my estimates, the

Liberator can cruise at a whacking 1.89 TRILLION miles per hour.
Does that sound about right?
ps. Forgive me if I've worked this out completely wrong or something,
its not
unlikelt. Just point and laugh and we'll forget it ever happened."

I'll let him know what people think
--
cheers
Steve Rogerson

Redemption 99: The Blakes 7 and Babylon 5 convention
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Ashford, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/

"Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell"
Star Wars

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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:45:25 -0000
From: "Alison Page" <alison@alisonpage.demon.co.uk>
To: "Lysator" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Mission speed
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Gavin (via Steve) said -

> Liberator can cruise at a whacking 1.89 TRILLION miles per hour.
> Does that sound about right?

Can we presume that the way that the Liberator moves doesn't involve
passing through every point in space between A and B, so that conventional
measurements of speed don't really apply? It works for me.

Also I like to imagine that 'meteor storm' and 'cloud of [whatever]' are
future-language metaphors for hyperspace anomalies which force the
Liberator to make diversions and suffer damage in the ways we see on the
screen. Otherwise the plot devices would be total nonsense, which is
clearly impossible.

Alison

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 13:37:25 PST
From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Admin stoppage
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Calle said: >The list has been silent for a while, because of Lysator's 
>mail server feeling sickly. It seems to be feeling better now.

I'm glad to hear it. Most of Lysator seemed to be down on Monday, or so 
it seemed when I tried to access the list's homepage either directly or 
by trying to weave around in the hope <grin> of surprising Calle's 
section of the site into opening.

By the way, Taina, if it was a computerised sermon giver (well, there 
are computerised justice machines, why shouldn't they have computerised 
other sorts of things as well?), would Orac be more interested? If only 
briefly?

Regards
Joanne

It isn't a question, after all, whether you like Joan Sutherland or not. 
Can you afford a ticket?
--Charmian Clift (on Australian culture)


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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 13:48:51 PST
From: "Joanne MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: B7 characters and sermons
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Taina said: >Tarrant would probably be doing his military best not to 
>fidget

Oh well, there you go then. I left comments about Tarrant to those who 
appreciate him most <grin>

Regards
Joanne

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computer (accessing the cables requires familiarity with OATHS version 
3.1 or higher).
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:14:18 EST
From: Tigerm1019@aol.com
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In a message dated 98-11-09 16:41:05 EST, you write:

<< By the way, Taina, if it was a computerised sermon giver (well, there 
 are computerised justice machines, why shouldn't they have computerised 
 other sorts of things as well?), would Orac be more interested? If only 
 briefly?
  >>

Hi, Joanne.  FWTW, Taina and i are two different people on opposite sides of
the planet.  I think Orac might be more interested under these circumstances,
but only if the text were one he could argue over.

Tiger M

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:38:02 +1000
From: "Taina Nieminen" <taina@netspace.net.au>
To: "B7" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: B7 characters and sermons
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Joanne said


>Taina said: >Tarrant would probably be doing his military best not to 
>>fidget


I don't think that was me. (But given my memory, I can't be sure.)

Taina
===========================
Is there a mind/body problem?
And if so, which is it better to have?
- Woody Allen

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:15:38 +0800
From: "Fleur A Johnstone" <fleur@p086.aone.net.au>
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Subject: [B7L] Message of Thanks/New Horizons
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Fellow B7 fanatics, thanks for your responses regarding Blakes7/The
Bill/Brush Strokes connection. It was interesting to hear about Graham
Cole and Simon Rouse playing monsters in Dr Who/Blakes7. Now when I watch
the Bill I keep picturing them in those kind of costumes! (you know how
you get an image in your mind and it's hard to get rid of it?)

Now for .... Horizon. That episode certainly  brought Avon's courage to
the surface and tested his loyalty to resistence forces. Since when was he
a "real tough guy"? He's usually the thinker and planner, not the saviour.
I'm more prone to believe that he didn't think he could survive without
Blake and the rest of the crew - that's why he saved them, rather than he
had his own ulterior motives. Deep down he was loyal to them and couldn't
desert. (well, at least not before trying to find out what happened to
them). What does everyone else think??
(I know this may have been discussed when the tape was re-released back in
September/October, but we Aussies are a bit behind you Brits!)
Regards, Fleur.

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:39:32 EST
From: VulcanXYZ@aol.com
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Blake and diversity
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Taina said: 
<<  However, Blake does deceive and manipulate his crew (or some members of
his
 crew on occasion). He lies to them about his intention to attack Central
 Control when they return to Earth, having told them it was a "long range
 reconnaissance mission". And I believe that he is manipulating them with his
 video recording in Trial (maybe it's the Avon in me). But I think the latter
 is a matter of perception, and I may well be more cynical than most people.
>>

Yes, I agree with you.  Blake is a master manipulator.  This is my main
problem with him.  Of course, I'm sure he justifies it, when he admits it to
himself at all, by saying that it is all for a good cause.  But I wonder how
much of what he does is to feed his own ego.  Being a major force, perhaps THE
major force, in this rebellion, certainly is an ego-booster.  

Perhaps this is the root of Avon's unease with him, besides the fact that Avon
is a loner and would rather not be connected, or dependent, on anyone.  On the
surface, Blake appears so noble fighting for a noble cause.  Cally certainly
thought so.  But underneath, maybe there were ugly undercurrents that Avon was
picking up on.

Is this pretty much the opinion of the listers?

Gail G.

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