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blakes7-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 197

Today's Topics:
	 Re: [B7L] canon firing.
	 Re: [B7L] b7- what a difference from Trek...
	 Re: [B7L] Re: Happy Endings
	 [B7L] 
	 [B7L] Orac's innards
	 Re: [B7L] Orac's innards
	 [B7L] Spam
	 Re: [B7L] Re: Happy Endings
	 [B7L] Newsflash from the Travelling Kiwi
	 RE: [B7L] Orac's innards
	 [B7L] Babylon 5 Repeats
	 [B7L] Babylon 5 Repeats-on TNT,babe.
	 Re: [B7L] Babylon 5 Repeats-on TNT,babe.

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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 01:08:22 EDT
From: ShilLance@aol.com
To: powerplay@cheerful.com, blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] canon firing.
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In a message dated 98-07-15 09:51:59 EDT, powerplay@cheerful.com writes:

<< If Blake's Legend 
 got the logo, then that would be canon too. >>

Is this video available?  Is it any good?

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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 01:11:47 EDT
From: ShilLance@aol.com
To: ophelia@picknowl.com.au, blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] b7- what a difference from Trek...
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In a message dated 98-07-15 11:07:25 EDT, ophelia@picknowl.com.au writes:

<< For example,
 we all "know" that the Bajorans opposing
 joining the Federation are just misguided, 
 even though they talk a lot of sense. >>

The last 2 seasons of DS9 have revealed more to this than you think.  Give DS9
more credit.

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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 01:17:12 EDT
From: ShilLance@aol.com
To: ophelia@picknowl.com.au, blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Happy Endings
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In a message dated 98-07-15 11:55:13 EDT, ophelia@picknowl.com.au writes:

<< >Any Forever Knight fans out there........?
 >
 >What do you think about the ending to that series?
 
 Having been prewarned...  Well, I've had it on
 tape, literally for months.  I'll let you know what I 
 think when I finally gather up the courage to watch 
 it.  <rueful grin> >>

While on the subject of B7 type endings, what about Space: Above and Beyond,
and MANTIS.  How would you guys rate their endingsin comparison to B7?

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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 13:03:50 +0000 (GMT)
From: Una McCormack <umm10@eng.cam.ac.uk>
To: Lysator <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
cc: Space City <space-city@world.std.com>
Subject: [B7L] 
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Some sad news caught on teletext this morning: Betty Marsden has died,
aged 79. Betty was best-known for the 1960s BBC radio comedy show 'Round
the Horne', but B7 fans will remember her as Verlis in 'Assassin'.

The BBC website has a fuller obit at:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/newsid_135000/135786.stm


Una

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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:06:38 +0100 (BST)
From: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Orac's innards
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I've just been asked:
> 
> Was there any truth in the rumour that Orac was actually running off
> an Acorn Atom? (I think the timing is about right.)

Does anybody here know if it's true?

Judith

-- 
http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7

Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention  
26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent
http://www.smof.com/redemption/

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Date: 20 Jul 1998 19:30:53 +0200
From: Calle Dybedahl <calle@lysator.liu.se>
To: Lysator List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Orac's innards
Message-ID: <usaf641lbm.fsf@sandra.lysator.liu.se>

Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk> writes:

> > Was there any truth in the rumour that Orac was actually running off
> > an Acorn Atom? (I think the timing is about right.)
> 
> Does anybody here know if it's true?

No Acorn could be seen inside him at Deliverance, and <Iforgethisname>
who had been one of model guys for most of the series didn't mention
it. I think he would have said something if there had been an actual
computer involved. Anyway, a computer to control Orac would've been
gross overkill, as all he was (apart from script and Peter Tuddenham)
was a bunch of blinking lights.
-- 
 Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se
              Please pay no attention to the panda in the fridge.

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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:27:06 EDT
From: Carolyn772@aol.com
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Spam
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Anyone who's familiar with Forever Knight, and would like to get a laugh, go
to : 

http://www.wolfenet.com/~emmabart/ForeverSpam/index.html

It's a collection of parodies written by a pro writer, Bill Thompson, in
response to the TONS of spam sent to the FK newsgroup.

Here's one of the non-FK pieces:

<<O, Spammer! My Spammer!

{with apologies to Walt Whitman--who would have hated spammers}

O Spammer! my Spammer! thy fearful deed is done!
This group has taken all your crap, you've had your little fun.
Your spam is here, your greed is clear, your presence is revolting.
And in my eyes you are a heel, so your actions I'm reporting.
            The netiquette you won't obey
            Has roused me to a fury.
            If I had my way you'd spend your days
            Confessing to a jury.

O Spammer! damned Spammer! drop dead and go to Hell!
Drop dead--for you the grave is dug--for you Death rings out its knell.
You know the hatred of this group is something you've been earning,
And if we ever hunt you down in a bonfire you'll be burning!
            Hear Spammer! damned spammer!
            What I have planned for you!
            I'm getting your account shut down
            And there's nothing you can do!

My Spammer does not answer, his screen sits dark and still.
He's off the Net, he's in a mess, his actions were illegal.
I have tracked him to his lair, and found his e-mail address,
And sent it to his postmaster, who revoked his network access!
            Exult, O group, and sing, O Net
            His spamming days are done!
            And how much would you like to bet
            He isn't having fun?

(Okay, as poems go this bites. At least it bites spammers.)>>

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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 19:51:40 +1000
From: Kathryn Andersen <kat@welkin.apana.org.au>
To: "Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Happy Endings
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On Mon, Jul 20, 1998 at 01:17:12AM -0400, ShilLance@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 98-07-15 11:55:13 EDT, ophelia@picknowl.com.au writes:
> 
> While on the subject of B7 type endings, what about Space: Above and Beyond,
> and MANTIS.  How would you guys rate their endingsin comparison to B7?

Never seen MANTIS.  S:AAB rocks.
To be less succinct, the ending of S:AAB compares favourably with the
end of Blake's 7, though of course it has a different tone, because
the whole show had a different tone.  Ironic, rather than tragic.
Obvious comparison: they're dead, Jim.  Well, half of them are
probably dead.  And the rest are left in a completely different
situation.  That's pretty much ending it with a bang,  except that the
end of Blake's 7 has a bit more closure, IMHO.

Other comparisons: Avon spent all this time searching for Blake, only
to shoot him.  West spent all this time looking for Kylen, only to
find that staying with his mates (to use the Aussie term) was more
important to him than staying with her.
Vila spent all his time being a coward, only to do something heroic at
the end.  Wang started off his term being afraid that he would be
shouted at, and dies heroically, shouting.

Ironic, ain't it.

Kathryn Andersen
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Cally:  What do you think has happened?
Jenna:  They've run into trouble.
Cally:  Yes.  And what do we do, wait and guess?
		 (Blake's 7: Pressure Point [B5])
-- 
 _--_|\	    | Kathryn Andersen		<kat@welkin.apana.org.au>
/      \    | 		http://home.connexus.net.au/~kat
\_.--.*/    | #include "standard/disclaimer.h"
      v	    |
------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere
Maranatha!  |	-> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe

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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 09:25:17 +1200
From: Nicola Collie <nicola.collie@stonebow.otago.ac.nz>
To: B7-list <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>, spin list <b7spin@metva.com.au>
Subject: [B7L] Newsflash from the Travelling Kiwi
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I've just gone and booked a ticket, arriving in Manchester on 4th November
(a Wednesday). This may make for a hectic last couple of weeks at work, but
I don't care any more. I can't see me getting that leave entitlement used
up, anyway ;-)
So that's ticket booked, entry papers sorted - only another 50 million
things to do now...
ttfn, Nicola

---
Nicola Collie		mailto:nicola.collie@stonebow.otago.ac.nz

"If I'm wrong you can say "I told you so", provided you speak loudly
 and quickly."

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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 23:13:43 +0100
From: Anne Lane <aplane@tesco.net>
To: "'Blakes7@lysator.liu.se'" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: RE: [B7L] Orac's innards
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Calle wrote:
>
> No Acorn could be seen inside him at Deliverance, and <Iforgethisname>
> who had been one of model guys for most of the series didn't mention
> it. I think he would have said something if there had been an actual

The gorgeous Mat Irvine, wearing rather strange clothes (part of the 70s 
revival?)

Anne

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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 23:21:27 +0100
From: Anne Lane <aplane@tesco.net>
To: "'Blakes7@lysator.liu.se'" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Babylon 5 Repeats
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According to an ad and listings in August's Cable Guide the Sci-Fi Channel are 
showing Babylon 5 from the beginning, starting 3rd August, every weeknight at 9 
p.m.

Just the right timing for me, as I'm about to register for Redemption but have 
never watched Babylon 5 (because everyone says you have to start at the 
beginning!).

The ad says "Uncut - See it from the beginning for the first time" - I don't 
know what this means.

Anne

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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:41:11 PDT
From: "Edith Spencer" <sueno45@hotmail.com>
To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Babylon 5 Repeats-on TNT,babe.
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          To All,
     Dont know where Anne is from ( on this list, one has to considerate 
of the fact that there are people from all over)but it was my 
understanding that B5 was exclusively shown on TNT and TNT satellite. 
You may want to check that out. And as far started at the beginning, I 
got hooked during the middle of season two, so just jmp in- it is 
totally cool.
                                                  Edith (not Piaf)

>From: Anne Lane <aplane@tesco.net>
>To: "'Blakes7@lysator.liu.se'" <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 23:21:27 +0100
>Subject: [B7L] Babylon 5 Repeats
>
>According to an ad and listings in August's Cable Guide the Sci-Fi 
Channel are 
>showing Babylon 5 from the beginning, starting 3rd August, every 
weeknight at 9 
>p.m.
>
>Just the right timing for me, as I'm about to register for Redemption 
but have 
>never watched Babylon 5 (because everyone says you have to start at the 
>beginning!).
>
>The ad says "Uncut - See it from the beginning for the first time" - I 
don't 
>know what this means.
>
>Anne
>
>


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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 00:25:01 -0500 (CDT)
From: Ray Kaplan <rckaplan@agamemnon.ai.uiuc.edu>
To: Blakes7 List <Blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Babylon 5 Repeats-on TNT,babe.
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On Mon, 20 Jul 1998, Edith Spencer wrote:

>        
>          To All,
>     Dont know where Anne is from ( on this list, one has to considerate 
>of the fact that there are people from all over)but it was my 
>understanding that B5 was exclusively shown on TNT and TNT satellite. 
>You may want to check that out. And as far started at the beginning, I 
>got hooked during the middle of season two, so just jmp in- it is 
>totally cool.
>                                                  Edith (not Piaf)
>

I thought so too, at least for the US.  TNT has been showing all of the
season 1-4 episodes over and over again, as well as Season 5 over again
(without showing the last five episodes until late October I think).
There must be mutiple showing in places outside the US since I did read
that in the UK the last 5 episodes will start in early August.

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Ray Kaplan                      CS Major University of Illinois   
rckaplan@acm.org                     Chair of SigVR at ACM@UIUC

http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~rckaplan                            O-
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