From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V98 #164 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume98/164 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 164 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L] Fourth Season - why?? [B7L] Lost in Space [B7L] Re criminals [B7L] Lost in Space postponed [B7L] The Bastards! Re: [B7L] Fourth Season - why?? [B7L] Lost in Space [B7L] B7 Videos in USA addendum Re: [B7L] Lost in Space Re: [B7L] Lost in Space postponed Re: [B7L] Lost in Space Re: [B7L] .. and more B7 drinks Re: [B7L] Criminals Re: [B7L] .. and more B7 drinks Re: [B7L] Travis. [B7L] FS: B7/DW etc Dreamwatch back-issues Re: [B7L] .. and more B7 drinks [B7L] Dreamwatch back issues [B7L] Lost in Space postponed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:15:10 +0100 (BST) From: Rob Clother To: B7 mailing list Subject: Re: [B7L] Fourth Season - why?? Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > In my wilder dreams, somebody decides to re-edit Blake's 7 and changes nothing > except the special efects. Not a single character moment is lost or changed, > but the space battles suddenly look amazing. Of course, after all the nasty things you can say about the special effects, the Liberator is still cooler (and scarier) than anything you'll find in Star Trek -- even the new ones. Anyway, it's time to stop being annoying for a bit. I shouldn't really be subscribed to this list from my work account, so I'm going to vanish again for a couple of months. In the mean time, if anything interesting goes down, like a Pages booze-up or an Up-North do, I'd be really, really grateful if some nice person could drop me a note... Cheerio, and thanks for putting up with me, -- Rob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 11:52:02 +0100 From: "Alison Page" To: "Lysator" Subject: [B7L] Lost in Space Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's tonight isn't it? I can't wait. The DJ I'm listening to just recommended people to watch it. Alas he didn't mention B7. Alison ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 18:44:10 +0100 GMT From: STEVE.ROGERSON@MCR1.poptel.org.uk To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re criminals Message-Id: <698194893MCR1@MCR1.poptel.org.uk> The whole business about Blake's trial raises other questions, not least the length the Federation was prepared to go to - altering children's minds so they believe they were abused. But it does beg the question of why didn't they also alter Blake's mind so he believed he did abuse them. Secondly, I find it very hard to belive that a lawyer familiar with the judicial system was so naieve as to its corruption. As to other mentions, I agree that it was strange Blake didn't come across more opposition because of the charge. It was obviously still something thought very poorly of judging by Raiker's taunt on the London. I agree with Judith that it would have become tedious if it had turned into a version of Branded in space, but ignoring it completely after the London didn't gel. cheers Steve Rogerson Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ "The workers united will never be ignited" Guards! Guards! - Terry Pratchett ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 19:27:06 +0100 GMT From: STEVE.ROGERSON@MCR1.poptel.org.uk To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se, space-city@world.std.com Subject: [B7L] Lost in Space postponed Message-Id: <698195367MCR1@MCR1.poptel.org.uk> The Lost in Space programme featuring Blake's 7 fans that was due to go out tonight on BBC 2 was postponed at the last minute because some stupid tennis match went on longer than expected. I've rung BBC 2 to complain and they say they don't know when it will be shown again but to ring on Monday to find out. Can I ask all the other UK fans to ring and complain about it being postponed, the reason being is that they are likely to postpone it indefinitely unless they get a lot of flack. cheers Steve Rogerson Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ "The workers united will never be ignited" Guards! Guards! - Terry Pratchett ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 98 18:30:01 UT From: "Anne Lane" To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] The Bastards! Message-Id: I have just phoned the BBC on 0181 743 8000 to complain about the postponement of the Blake's 7 Lost in Space episode in favour of yet more sport. They said it would be shown next week. When asked why it couldn't just be shown a little late they said 'live sport always takes precedence'. I said I thought there was enough sport on television at the moment, and as far as I knew this program was the only Blake's 7 related program produced by the BBC in the twentieth anniversary year. Incidentally, I notice that in July UK Gold are starting to show Blake's 7 on both Saturday and Sunday mornings. Anne Lane ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 18:36:47 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L] Fourth Season - why?? Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Fri 12 Jun, Rob Clother wrote: > > > > In my wilder dreams, somebody decides to re-edit Blake's 7 and changes nothing > > except the special efects. Not a single character moment is lost or changed, > > but the space battles suddenly look amazing. > > > Of course, after all the nasty things you can say about the special > effects, the Liberator is still cooler (and scarier) than anything you'll > find in Star Trek -- even the new ones. Absolutely. Liberator is beautiful! I want a model, but the only kit I ever saw made up into something too small. I want Liberator about a foot across so I can hang her in the high part of the stairwell. > > Anyway, it's time to stop being annoying for a bit. I shouldn't really be > subscribed to this list from my work account, so I'm going to vanish again > for a couple of months. In the mean time, if anything interesting goes > down, like a Pages booze-up or an Up-North do, I'd be really, really > grateful if some nice person could drop me a note... > > Cheerio, and thanks for putting up with me, We'll miss you. You've saved me an awful lot of typing recently by managing to say the things I'd normallly say, but saying them first and better. Don't stay away too long. I'd actually managed to get started on the second chapter of my long-suffering vampire novel. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 19:31:38 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: [B7L] Lost in Space Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I hate tennis!!!! Judith PS. I imagine it's anyone's guess as to when it will be shown now. Programmes lost after sport overruns get tucked into all sorts of horrible corners. Assuming they don't vanish into limbo alltogether. PPS. If anyone finds out when it's actually being shown, please tell me. -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 15:26:22 -0400 From: "cmhg" To: Subject: [B7L] B7 Videos in USA addendum Message-ID: <008201bd9637$fcd495c0$a54efad0@default> Sorry, I did not realize that the 3 digit code was required to enter the page where the Blakes 7 videos are available. Here is how you get to it: www.columbiahouse.com/vl Enter the 3 digit code from the magazine code or mailing. This code is PXQ. Go to number 6. You will find the video there. Select the video to see an "interesting" synopsis of the series, and to order online if you choose to. Sorry for any confusion. hg cmhg@msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 20:26:58 +0100 From: "Alison Page" To: "Lysator" Subject: Re: [B7L] Lost in Space Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cancelled for Tim Henman. *sigh* Does anyone know when it will be on? Alison ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 22:36:25 +0200 From: "Nelly Meijerink" To: , , Subject: Re: [B7L] Lost in Space postponed Message-Id: <199806122047.WAA26776@Njord.bart.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit steve wrote > The Lost in Space programme featuring Blake's 7 fans that was > due to go out tonight on BBC 2 was postponed at the last > minute because some stupid tennis match went on longer than > expected. I've rung BBC 2 to complain and they say they don't > know when it will be shown again but to ring on Monday to > find out. Can I ask all the other UK fans to ring and complain > about it being postponed, the reason being is that they are likely > to postpone it indefinitely unless they get a lot of flack. I like watching tennis but I HATE it when it is interfering with my main interest. Please, what is the phone number (of the BBC) so I can let them know ' they should not ever do this (again)!!!' Nelly (polishing her guns) ***************************************** 'Am I in a fit state to encounter my fellow-beings?' she asked. VW, VO 243 ***************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 21:59:20 +0000 From: Katharine Woods To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Lost in Space Message-ID: <3581A4B8.45F2F352@whitecrow.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I rush home, get into the living room, triumphantly just in time, and switch the TV on at 7:14pm to find there's a tennis match going on and on and on and on. And it's not even Wimbledon. And how come we get two popup messages telling us that Quantum Leaps (not the Scott whatsit program) is postponed till next week and nothing, that's diddly over squat, about Lost In Space? Mutter, mutter, grumble. I'll probably get to Reading tomorrow and find that the Hexagon have cancelled Guards Guards in lieu of a badminton match. > PPS. If anyone finds out when it's actually being shown, please tell me. > Me too, please. Steve, could you let us have the phone number to ring and complain. I tried to find it on the Beeb's web site but that crashed my browser. Thank heaven that the ending to Invasion Earth wasn't as feeble as I thought it might be. Disgruntled of Rugby, Katharine (Woods) kjw@whitecrow.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 21:03:11 -0700 From: Pat Patera To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] .. and more B7 drinks Message-ID: <3581F9FF.4F1C@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rob Clother wrote: > > ... and Tarrant as a tall glass of milk. > Big drink of water might be a bit more appropriate. > Are you calling Tarrant a drip? Pat P ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 21:12:19 -0700 From: Pat Patera To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Criminals Message-ID: <3581FC23.16B4@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reuben Herfindahl wrote: > Maybe it's just because I'm too new to this, > but I've never seen any pre Way Back Blake fan fic. I think it would be > fascinating. > Yes, you have not read enough fanfic. All the characters have had their pre-Liberator lives detailed - from childhood thru their nefarious troublesome teen years, not to mention their various amorous affairs with one another who they met in any number of unlikely coincidences. When it comes to fanfic, no stone has been left unturned. On the thread of recalling tales that dealt with Blake's crime of child molestation: one story treated the subject seriously and did an excellent job of showing how hard Blake fought against his inclinations (which he knew were not good) in this direction. The story had some rebel's child - frightened by a thunderstorm - come climb into the safety of Big Blake's bed. Oh poor, sorely tempted Blake! (However, he overreacted in the other direction and scared the young boy half to death, throwing him out on the floor chasing him from the room). It was by M. Fae Glasgow, in Oblaque V, I think. Pat P ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 21:22:23 -0700 From: Pat Patera To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] .. and more B7 drinks Message-ID: <3581FE7F.1D66@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alison Page wrote: > I'd see Avon as extremely strong coffee mmmmmmmmmmmmm bitter > Dayna as Pepsi, for those who think young > and Tarrant as a tall glass of milk. yes, disgustingly wholesome > Gan as cocoa, no, prune juice - more disgustingly wholesome still > Cally as fizzy water do you remember Fizzies? Drop a tablet into a glass of water, drink it down, and become telepathically possessed > Blake certainly remains a pint of Guinness nothing else will do > Jenna is whatever bored housewives drink in the afternoon that would be wine coolers these days > Soolin is pure cold vodka brrrrrrrr I love this. perfect! > and Vila.. well.. > Something under-rated and delicious. lemonade: pastel, sweet on the surface but with a subtle tang of sour sarcasm Pat P ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 21:30:00 -0700 From: Pat Patera To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Travis. Message-ID: <35820048.60CE@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Billingsley wrote: > Even with the change of actors, Travis's character certainly 'clams down' > between his introduction as a psychotic commander who wipes out civillian > populations, to the more docile, in-the-background Travis of Weapon, > Pressure Point, etc. Ah, but he had been reconditioned - and unlike impervious Vila, in Travis' case it did take. He only refers to this once, and is unable to express his feelings since the change: even his ability to express what he had once been had been taken from him; supressed or lost. However, I've never seen a fanfic story dealing with his new condition, which I would expect to be a seething natural aggression and rage at being turned into a puppy dog. No wonder he went bonkers. Imagine if he could see down to his real self, yet be unable to express it; worse, to have to watch himself be Servie's simpering lapdog. And, of course, the conditioning included removal of his backbone (that's why he's so much shorter in season 2) Pat P ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 09:17:28 +0100 From: Andrew Spong To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] FS: B7/DW etc Dreamwatch back-issues Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I've got a number of issues back-issues of Dreamwatch for sale from the days before it turned into a glossy celebration of Hollywood onanists. Those that I haven't already binned have at least one DW/B7/British SF article in. I'm offering them at a rounded-up cover price (indicated) plus UK P&P as follows: 1 magazine: 40p additional magazine: 20p each No. 9 (May 1995) - inc. speculation on TVM; Downtime; The Chase; B7 [£2] No. 10 (June 1995) - inc. 4 page Season Seven review; also Department S, RD [£2] No. 11 (July 1995) - inc. 3 page interview with Sophie Aldred [£2] No. 12 (Aug. 1995) - inc. 5 page Space 1999 item; also Edge of Darkness [£2] No. 13 (Sep, 1995) - inc. 4 page Roger Delgado article; also ITC & nice B7 c/f [£2] No. 14 (Oct. 1995) - inc. 3 page Sapphire & Steel; also Sally Knyvette int. [£2.50] No. 15 (Nov. 1995) - inc. Pyramids of Mars (4 pp.); Courtney; Hinchcliffe [£2.50] No. 16 (Dec. 1995) - inc. Prisoner retrospective (3 pp.); Barry Morse int. [£2.50] No. 17 (Jan. 1996) - inc. McCoy int. (3 pp.); Daleks' Master Plan (2 pp.) [£2.50] No. 18 (Feb. 1996) - inc. Paul McGann news piece (2 pp.); HHG (2 pp.) [£2.50] No. 21 (May 1996) - inc. Gareth Thomas int. (3 pp.);McGann/TVM (5 pp)[£2.50] No. 22 (June 1996) - inc. Philip Segal int. (3 pp.); Ed Bishop int. (2 pp.) [£2.50] No. 23 (July 1996) - inc. Jon Petwee obit. (2 pp.); Adam Adamant (2 pp.) [£2.50] No. 26 (Oct. 1996) - inc. Rob Grant (2 pp.); Day of the Triffids (3 pp.) [£2.50] No. 27 (Nov. 1996) - inc. 11 pp. Troughton tribute (inc.int. Hines/Padbury) [£2.50] No. 29 (Jan. 1997) - inc. D. Naylor, P. Davison, S. Sutton, Lucy Fleming [£2.50] No. 33 (May 1997) - inc. 3 page interview with Louise Jameson [£3] No. 35 (July 1997) - inc. 5 p. interview with Michael Craze and Anneke Wills [£3] No. 36 (Aug. 1997) - inc. 3 page piece on Star Cops; also New Avengers [£3] No. 37 (Sep. 1997) - inc. 4 page review of McCoy years by Kate Orman [£3] No. 40 (Dec. 1997) - inc. 4 page Tom Baker item. [£3] No. 41 (Jan. 1998) - inc. 7 page B7 20th anniversary retrospective. [£3] No. 42 (Feb.1998) - inc. 7 page interview with Peter Davison. [£3] No. 43 (Mar. 1998) - inc. 4 page item on Red Dwarf [£3] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 18:32:17 +0930 From: "Ophelia" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] .. and more B7 drinks Message-ID: <01bd96a9$f76b84a0$254c18cb@waltersmith> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been staying out of this, being mostly abstentious myself - designer herbalised soft drinks are my sin rather than booze, so I honestly don't know how most of these things taste. So I'll stick to fizzy drinks... Avon, being a computer nerd type, would poison himself on that Jolt rubbish. All that crankiness is simply sugar and caffeine overload... Either that or the Muhasi "Brain" blend to feed those precious little grey cells. >> Dayna as Pepsi, >for those who think young At least she has the good sense to avoid Coke - that sticky sweetness is better suited to Piri at her most sugary. Tho' I've heard it's a generational thing... Anyway, our amzonian vixen definitely was a generation X grrl ahead of her time - a real Girl Power go-getter. Anyway, for Cally I'd suggest Ambrosia (purified rainwater with a dash of honey and healing herbs.) Tarrant - diet Coke. Gan - creaming soda. Bright red and super-sweet. Blake - real brewed ginger beer, full-bodied and sweet but with complex depths. Jenna - actually, Jenna reminds me of one of the few boozes I do sip at night-clubs, XLRate (not sure if I spelled that right) - guarana and caffeine enhanced alcoholic cola. Pure dark energy (for a long night of dancing). Pat suggested for Vila: >lemonade: pastel, sweet on the surface but with a subtle tang of sour >sarcasm Hmm. Do you furriners drink Two Dogs? (brewed alcoholic lemonade.) Just the right long, cool, sweet, bitter, intoxicating draught for when stocks of adrenaline-and-soma run low. Last but definitely not least, Soolin - either extra-dry ginger ale or mineral water, sparkling, clear, delicious and bitter. - XXX Lindley Ophelia - ophelia@picknowl.com.au "The girl has beauty, virtue, wit, Grace, humour, wisdom, charity and pluck." LONDON CALLING - a list to discuss Britcoms and knockwurst. http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/2511/knockwurst.html >Pat P > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 10:57:31 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: [B7L] Dreamwatch back issues Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Andrew, I tried to send this off-list, but it bounced. On Sat 13 Jun, Andrew Spong wrote: > No. 21 (May 1996) - inc. Gareth Thomas int. (3 pp.);McGann/TVM (5 pp)[=A3= 2.50] > No. 36 (Aug. 1997) - inc. 3 page piece on Star Cops; also New Avengers [= =A33] > No. 40 (Dec. 1997) - inc. 4 page Tom Baker item. [=A33] No. 41 (Jan. 1998= ) - > inc.7 page B7 20th anniversary retrospective. [=A33]=20 Put me down for those ones. I make that 80p. Where do I send the money or would you rather have 4 20p stamps? Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 13:32:09 +0100 GMT From: STEVE.ROGERSON@MCR1.poptel.org.uk To: space-city@world.std.com, blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Lost in Space postponed Message-Id: <698201366MCR1@MCR1.poptel.org.uk> Nelly said: "I like watching tennis but I HATE it when it is interfering with my main interest. Please, what is the phone number (of the BBC) so I can let them know ' they should not ever do this (again)!!!'" 0171 240 3456 is the only number in my phone book and it is the world service number. I rang that number and it is one big internal phone system between all the bits, so they put me throughto the TV complaints desk. cheers Steve Rogerson Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ RThe workers united will never be ignitedS Guards! Guards! - Terry Pratchett -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V98 Issue #164 **************************************