From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V98 #13 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume98/13 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 13 Today's Topics: Re: Jenna's Jewelry was Re: [B7L] The Way Back 3/4 [B7L] radio play and Radio Times Re: [B7L] Spam Re: [B7L] :Upcoming excitement RE: [B7L] Steve Taylor - Radio play details Re: [B7L] PAUL DARROW ON BBC ONLINE [B7L] BBC VOTE FOR REPEAT Re: [B7L] The City at the Edge of the World Re: [B7L] Del Grant? Re: [B7L] Radio Play, anyone taping it? [B7L] Gareth Who? [B7L] cheap videos [B7L] Re Spam [B7L] Beards Re: [B7L] :Upcoming excitement Re: Concerning:Re: [B7L] inside the liberator [B7L] Re: The Way Back [B7L] test Re: [B7L] The City at the Edge of the World ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 18:15:48 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: Re: Jenna's Jewelry was Re: [B7L] The Way Back 3/4 Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Sue Clerc said: > Assuming a conspiracy run by Glynd to aid Blake's escape, I > figure Jenna isn't in on it. Glynd could've chosen her for her rebel > leanings (the Avalon connection) or maybe she was the only pilot in > custody at the time. But the idea that she was in on it is intriguing. > There are two fan novels...The Long Way Back...and I can't think of the > other title...that do involve a conspiracy of sorts to get Blake and > Avon and the others together. They're well-written and go into a lot > of depth about Federation society. I don't actually buy into most of > the author's vision (I especially dislike her Blake 8-), but the > zines are really interesting. What IS the title of the other one? > It's the sequel...I can picture the cover... 'The Last Best Hope' and 'The Long Way Back' by Melody Clark. They are undoubtely the most complex stories of the 'there was a plot to get Blake and co on the London' type that I have ever read. The Last Best Hope is gen, The Long Way Back is the sequel and is slash. I brought out new editions of both of them recently. I'm not surprised you rememer the covers. Caren Parnes art is beautiful. One of my two favourite Blake portraits of all time is on the cover of The Long Way Back (the other is Jean Kludge's cover for the Machiavelli Factor). Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 18:43:22 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: [B7L] radio play and Radio Times Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 The radio play is on Radio 4, this Saturday, 2.30 to 7.00 The Radio Times has a one page article with a picture of the cast as they are now. It isn't a wildly thrilling article. I've seen much better recent photos of Paul Darrow, but Michael Keating looks rather nice (almost a clone of Gene Hackman) I was hoping for a cover photo, but we didn't get that. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: 14 Jan 1998 10:05:09 +0100 From: Calle Dybedahl To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Spam Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Claudia Marie writes: > (I'm probably subscribed as cmarie@shell2.tiac.net, but my current > From: address is cmarie@tiac.net, There is a "fudge factor" involved, just to cover changes like that. > But there can be good reasons for people to post from an address > other than the one that they are subscribed from. Yes. Non-allowed mail will be sent to the maintainer address, so I can always forward stuff to the list if it actually was relevant. -- Calle Dybedahl, UNIX Sysadmin qdtcall@esavionics.se http://www.lysator.liu.se/~calle/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:30:24 +0000 (GMT) From: Iain Coleman To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] :Upcoming excitement Message-Id: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, Julia Jones wrote: > I thought the (real) five-day beard was rather cute. Which is saying > something, I'm not a fan of beards. Paul's one of the few men I consider > to be sexy, rather than merely not actually repellent, when wearing a > beard. Come on, now, Julia posted this a couple of days ago. Aren't any of the women out there going to say how much they like bearded guys? No? oh Iain ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 98 09:07:00 PST From: "Taylor, Steve [MIS]" To: blakes7 Subject: RE: [B7L] Steve Taylor - Radio play details Message-ID: <34BCF203@courier.lmu.ac.uk> Grateful thanks to Nelly and Jackie for the play details. I have only just rejoined the list after a months break and was worried that the date I had originally (16th) didn't appear to be correct. I had trouble from here with the BBC website - hence my plea. I hope its worth it:-)) - the big danger is that, without the 'brilliant' props and scenery, it will be too professional 8-P Thanks again Steve Taylor Computer Manager at the moment but who knows next week:-( ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:51:22 -0500 (EST) From: Goddess of the Moon To: Andrew.Sewell@beeb.com (Andrew Sewell) Cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] PAUL DARROW ON BBC ONLINE Message-Id: <9801141651.AA03713@black.clarku.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Every day I go to the website that the chat will be featured on. I have 2 questions: 1, how do i post a question, and 2, since it says that it will be at 1pm, but 1pm in what time zone? Cindy......sill hopelessly crazy over Paul Darrow -- ~Cyn~ @}---'--- **ccorliss@black.clarku.edu ** "For she's been waiting to bloom"** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:58:09 +0000 From: "Reuben Herfindahl" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] BBC VOTE FOR REPEAT Message-Id: <199801141656.KAA01052@athena.host4u.net> Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit http://www.oi.beeb.com/scifi-fantasy/index.html A feature I'm suprised hasn't been mentioned before, is there is a vote here on if the BBC should repeat the series. I'm not sure if the BBC notices this type of stuff, but the votes aren't overwhealmingly for this. Come on people, let's vote for this. Reuben reuben@reuben.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:40:54 -0800 From: Pat Patera To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] The City at the Edge of the World Message-ID: <34BC33C6.E4A@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jackie wrote: > Now we have Kerrill as well as Jarvik and Dorian as crew members. Does > anyone else have a charactor they would like to join the crew, and why? > I would looooove to see Tyce Sarkoff join the crew. Talk about someone for Avon to verbally spar with! He wouldn't scare her a bit. Plus, she has a fine pout to put Avon's scowl to a test. Think what a great pair Tyce and Cally would make, going down together on terrorist missions. Oh, I should love to see Blake sticken by those baby blues of hers. And those boots! She surely wins the prize for impractical footwear. Can you see Jenna and Tyce getting into the Battle of the Fashion Boots? Can you see Vila crawling after her, striken? Tyce had a strength of will equal to that of Avalon or Blake. She had the loyalty to stand by her president. She had the fortitude not to give up, no matter how long her vigil might last. She had the guts to pull a gun, tho she was no trained terrorist. She just needed a bit of training from Cally. Then look out, baddies! Pat P ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:53:47 -0800 From: Pat Patera To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Del Grant? Message-ID: <34BC36CB.5AC4@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Matt Cherry wrote: > > Just wondering if anyon's ever written a fanzine story on the future of > Del Grant after "Countdown"? ... Grant has been rather a favorite with many fan writers. I recall one story set pre-series where Grant and Tarrant meet "in the field" and... but that's for the other list. I did like the way he kept calling Tarrant "boy-o" Ha! Sounds just like Grant. And I will admit to penning the "reunion" of Avon and Grant in a PGP zine, "Checkers" just because I wanted to milk the confrontation for all it was worth. It wouldn't be any fun bringing those two together unless Grant "did" know - that's the conflict. Grant is a fun character for any story, because he's such a good commando / warmonger type. He is easily used to kick off any kind of battle action. >The constant animosity between Avon and him would have been > even better that that of Blake and Avon. oh yes; Del was so wonderfully snide and sneering. Del and Avon could have sneering contests. > P.S. Is it just me or is "Killer" the most disturbing episode of the > series? No, Children of Auron is the most distressing. In Killer, the killing concept was from a remote past moment. In "Children" we watch Servalan cold-bloodedly unleash the virus. Plus, the death was much quicker in Killer; in Children, they wandered about bursting with terrible boils. yeeech. Pat P ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:04:28 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L] Radio Play, anyone taping it? Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 On Tue 13 Jan, Reuben Herfindahl wrote: > Is anyone taping the Radio Play Saturday. I'm a rather worried US fan, who > can't get access to it. I can trade or pay or something for it. I should be taping it. You might want to consider buying the official tape from the BBC though. Any off air recording will lose a little bit in the middle when the tape is turned over. The official tape has a few minutes of interviews with the main cast members at the end of it, as well as the play. (Although Sheelagh Well's interview tapes are more interesting in that respect) I don't know the overseas price from the BBC, but Horizon have copies and it's actually cheaper from them. See their web page Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:38:29 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: [B7L] Gareth Who? Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 I've invented a minor game of my own to while away odd moments. Gareth once complained that nobody ever remembers his full name, and indeed a recent infamous TV magazine quoted his name as Gareth Hunt. The rules are dead simple. You get into conversation with someone who isn't a major fan, but who does remember the series. The you ask them who played Blake. Or try it with 'Morgan's Boy' and ask who played Morgan. The results usually go something like this. "erm. Gareth Hunt? Gareth Edwards? Go on tell me." So you tell them. "Ah, Gareth Thomas. Yes, I remember now you mention it." You score one point for every wrong version of the name. "Gareth - I can't remember his second name" also scores. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:09:23 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: [B7L] cheap videos Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 There's a sex shop in Bournemouth that also has some cut price B7 videos. If anyone's interested, they have tapes 15,16,17,18,21,22,23,24 in stock. ie. mostly 4th season. They're 6.99 each or two tapes for 10 pounds. The shop's in the Triangle, near all the bus stops. They also stock videos ranging from old children's favourites, classic cult shows and the videos you'd normally expect in that kind of shop. Judith PS. If anyone desperately needs those particular tapes, but wouldn't dare walk through the door to get them, I might be persuaded to go shopping on your behalf, but it is a minor trek for me to get into Bournemouth, so you'll have to be very convincing. PPS. The videos are being rereleased by another company soon, but I imagine they'll cost around ten or eleven pounds each. -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 20:06:10 +0100 GMT From: STEVE.ROGERSON@MCR1.poptel.org.uk To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re Spam Message-Id: <198170936MCR1@MCR1.poptel.org.uk> Re spam, Calle said: "I could make so that only those who subscribe to the list may post." One problem is that I'm sure I remember us getting the odd genuine post from people who have found the web site and they have a B7 query. Also, this problem seems very recent and there have only been two, I think. Can we trace how we have recently become a target and stop it at source? cheers Steve Rogerson Redemption 99 - The Blakes 7/Babylon 5 convention 26-28 February 1999, Ashford International Hotel, Kent http://www.smof.com/redemption/ Make your own tribble! Buy a hamster and cut off its legs ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:12:27 EST From: Carolyn772 To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Beards Message-ID: <623431b8.34bd0e1d@aol.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Iain said: << Aren't any of the women out there going to say how much they like bearded guys? >> Okay, _I_ will! My SO has had a beard the entire time we have been together (it has gone from brown to white in that time...) I LIKE beards, and can easily picture Tarrant with a Van Dyke-style, neatly trimmed moustache and beard. Blake looked good with his gray beard, and since I have seen David (Gan) Jackson with a moustache, I know he looked fine! Vila, now, I can't picture. Avon would look good, too, as per his previous incarnation as the Sheriff of Nottingham. Carolyn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:08:00 +0000 From: Julia Jones To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] :Upcoming excitement Message-ID: In message , Iain Coleman writes > > >On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, Julia Jones wrote: > >> I thought the (real) five-day beard was rather cute. Which is saying >> something, I'm not a fan of beards. Paul's one of the few men I consider >> to be sexy, rather than merely not actually repellent, when wearing a >> beard. > >Come on, now, Julia posted this a couple of days ago. Aren't any of the >women out there going to say how much they like bearded guys? > I would just like to point out for the benefit of Iain's sadly abused ego that this is merely my personal reaction, not that I think that beards are intrinsically unsexy. I do know women who feel the opposite. Because they like feeling the beard :-) -- Julia Jones "Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!" The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 00:22:20 GMT From: kawm@dove.mtx.net.au (Ken Minne) To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se, B7 Lysator Subject: Re: Concerning:Re: [B7L] inside the liberator Message-ID: <34bd94ae.1560311@mail.mtx.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Good day all, On Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:20:38 +1000 (GMT+1000), you wrote: < snip about Royal Navy > >Actually, in some ways it's rather like the Federation -- a tiny flock of >miniature ships being sent after the real artillery. I've always wondered >why they never amassed a really good ambush. Even in Duel they only had >three pesky gnats chasing after Liberator. > IRC, at the start of Duel, Travis laments that he has twice had the chance to destroy the Liberator, but was only stopped due to the interference of the higher command, who wanted the Liberator captured intact. Does anyone know of anymore information ( in canon or fanfic ) about these incidents? I can quite easily see Travis, in a large number of the Federation's heavy warships ambushing the Liberator when Blake tried to attack some Federation deep space facilty, and being ready, through sheer weight of numbers to blow a by now crippled Liberator to stardust, when the order comes down from on high. Just as the Fed boarding party is about to close, our heroric crew bring the main engines back online and leave the Feds fuming in their wake. Classic revolutionary theory also gives all of the advantages to Blake, who can attack with surprise, from any direction and with a little luck, against inferior Federation forces. The Federation can not protect everything, all the time. There are also parallels here to the German pocket battleships of World War II, such as the Graf Spee, Admiral Scheer, and Duetschland, designed to out run anything they could not catch, and out fight anything they can't outrun. The Royal Navy succeeded where the Federation failed, cornering the Graf Spee with three cruisers, but fortunately for the British, the locals were not as helpful to the Graf Spee as they were to the crew of the Liberator. >Bill. >(soon to vanish) > Hopefully not premantently, >;-) Walter Minne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:30:32 -0500 From: Harriet Monkhouse To: "Blake's 7 (Lysator)" Subject: [B7L] Re: The Way Back Message-ID: <199801141931_MC2-2F5C-106D@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Re the discussion started by Sue Clerc about Ven Glynd setting things up: > He arranges for Blake to be deported rather >than killed, knowing that if there's one thing >Blake can be relied on to do, it's cause trouble. > To help Blake get away from Cygnus Alpha, >Glynd makes sure a pilot currently in custody >is thrown onto the London, too. Have any of the Avonocentrics suggested that, au contraire, it was Bartolomew who plotted to save her ex from Cygnus Alpha by giving him not just a skilled pilot but a bolshie rebel guaranteed to try taking over the ship? Not that I would attempt to argue such a case myself, of course. Harriet ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 06:48:53 GMT From: Wildstar@tf-ring.com (Willdstar) To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] test Message-ID: <34beb13b.73018466@smtp.ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit sorry about this gang, i just want to make sure i'm still subbed (please forgive me) ...it was a love that could never be and a hatred that always was... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:08:52 +0000 From: Russ Massey To: pussnboots@geocities.com Cc: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] The City at the Edge of the World Message-ID: In message <34BC33C6.E4A@geocities.com>, Pat Patera writes >Jackie wrote: > >> Now we have Kerrill as well as Jarvik and Dorian as crew members. Does >> anyone else have a charactor they would like to join the crew, and why? >> >I would looooove to see Tyce Sarkoff join the crew. Talk about someone >for Avon to verbally spar with! He wouldn't scare her a bit. Plus, she >has a fine pout to put Avon's scowl to a test. Yep - best pair of lips in the series, without a doubt. > Think what a great pair >Tyce and Cally would make, going down together on terrorist missions. Cally in her white fur with black spots, Tyce in all black with gleaming hair... >Oh, I should love to see Blake sticken by those baby blues of hers. And >those boots! She surely wins the prize for impractical footwear. I think having a gun in your boot is extremely practical - you wouldn't get anything sufficiently lethal hidden in *sensible* shoes, now would you! -- Russ Massey -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V98 Issue #13 *************************************