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blakes7-d Digest				Volume 00 : Issue 294

Today's Topics:
  Re: [B7L] bfi poll                    [ "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.n ]
  [B7L] Re: children of Servalan        [ Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net> ]
  Re: [B7L] Avon as loner? (was Dorian  [ "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com ]
  Re: [B7L] Servalan's Clones           [ "Dana Shilling" <dshilling@worldnet ]
  Re: [Re: [B7L] Dorian and Avon]       [ "Dana Shilling" <dshilling@worldnet ]
  [B7L] Re: Children of the Stones      [ JEB31538@cs.com ]
  [B7L] Re: Children of the Stones      [ Natasa Tucev <tucev@tesla.rcub.bg.a ]
  [B7L] Servalan's Clones               [ "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com ]
  Re: [B7L] Avon as loner? (was Dorian  [ Mac4781@aol.com ]
  [B7L] Review: Travis 2 miniature      [ Julia Jones <julia.lysator@jajones. ]
  Re: [Re: [B7L] Dorian and Avon]       [ "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com> ]
  Re: [B7L] Avon as loner? (was Dorian  [ "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com ]
  Re: [B7L] Food and fantasy            [ "J MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.co ]
  [B7L] Planning and acting skills (wa  [ Betty Ragan <ragan@sdc.org> ]

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Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 13:40:10 +0100
From: "Neil Faulkner" <N.Faulkner@tesco.net>
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From: Sally Manton <smanton@hotmail.com>
> Neil, you ought to empthasize more with Avon, don't you think?  Being a
> sweetness-and-light-challenged sex magnet like My Darling ...

Well, I'm halfway there.  I've got the sweetness-and-light challenged side
of things more or less worked out.

My feet seem to be a magnet for dog turds, no matter what shoes I'm wearing.

Neil

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Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 17:36:07 -0700
From: Helen Krummenacker <avona@jps.net>
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> >> Avona:  Mother's going to appoint me.
> 
> 
> Helen commented:
> >This is SCAREY! This is *my* nickname... and I do make a pretty good
> Servalan-clone in costume. May I never be reincarnated as such!<
> 
> Sorry.  No disrespect meant.

No offense taken. I laughed.

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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 01:57:25 GMT
From: "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L]  Avon as loner? (was Dorian and Avon and *is* long ...)
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Joining in Helen & Marian's discussion (but only about My Darling, not 
Dorian):

Helen wrote:
<Avon, the loner by desire, has never actually been a loner in the series.>

I'm inclined to agree with this - it's like the 'noli me tagere' aspect of 
his nature, in which he appears at once stand-offish, so much so that a lot 
of fan lore says he *hates* to be touched - and the undeniable fact that 
when you watch the episodes, he not only has no problem, but is actually 
*inclined* to touch, even with those people he doesn't much care for.

Same with the 'loner' aspect.  Avon comes over as this on the surface, 
methinks, but when you watch him more carefully, especially with Blake and 
Vila, he does enjoy their company and conversation, likes talking to them - 
even teases them sometimes rather than employing his usual mockery. (Just 
about everyone teases Avon occasionally, but it's actually rare that he 
indulges in it).

Marian:
<In Space Fall, he's presented as a loner.>

To an extent ...

<He moves over to the table without acknowledging the presence of the 
others.>

Without *overtly* acknowledging it, but IMO he's *deliberately* attracting 
their attention to himself by that move (then piquing it by pointedly 
ignoring said attention).

<The fact that he can get along with this small group of crewmates doesn't 
mean that he needs company.  I see him as a truly independent soul who can 
be perfectly happy on his own.>

But quite often just as - if not more - happy when he *does* have someone 
else to bounce off (even Gan - there's that lovely scene in The Web where 
he's showing off the wonders of the Liberator to Gan, a joy he wouldn't have 
if he was on his own).

I love that line in Horizon, the quiet satisfaction of his "I am not alone 
after all".  Indicates strongly that he's come to want people - if only 
*these* people - around (I am not saying for one minute that there are times 
he doesn't go and hide in one of the most distant hold on the Liberator, 
just for some time out.  Then again, I'm sure Blake and probably Jenna do 
too :-)).

Helen:
<Gan and Jenna actually revealed and interacted less, or such is my 
impression.>

Marian:
<In Time Squad Gan confides in Jenna about his limiter and she's very 
sympathetic.  (More than we see her to anyone else except Blake.)  In that 
scene they interact more with each other than either of them ever does with 
Avon, IMHO.>

Agreed, but they don’t have a lot with the others (Gan and Vila - best mates 
in fanfic - have surprisingly little real interaction once Avon&Vila gets 
going.)

<Initially, Avon seems very set at keeping his distance.  When he gets to 
know the others better, it looks like he's prepared to let his defences down 
a bit towards Vila and Cally.  He may even begin to enjoy their company - he 
seems more relaxed with them than with the others.  He stays wary of Blake - 
understandable as, while Vila and Cally are prepared to take him as he is, 
Blake has the irritating habit of asking more of him than Avon wishes to 
give.>

<grin> Can't agree (everyone pretend to be surprised ...) I think he's 
'fond' of Cally, he likes her (as he is Dayna) and can work well with her in 
one of her good episodes (Voice being an example) but I see very little 
evidence that he actively enjoys her conversation or company as such (I love 
that line about "the sparkling company on the flight deck" from Sarcophagus 
- he's speaking to one of the *least* sparkling people to ever set foot on 
the Liberator, after Gan and the Altas). And I'd love to know how you square 
that 'prepared to take him as he is' bit with Children of Auron/Rumours of 
Death, where Cally seems to me to resent the fact that he won't defer to her 
morals (but then my Cally is not a tolerant person.  Neither is my Avon <g> 
for that matter.)

Comes from what we each see on the screen. To a great extent, Avon doesn't 
talk *to* people, he talks *at* them (even when he's being friendly, as 
again in the scene with Gan).  There's very little give-and-take byplay - 
two people actually interacting for the sheer fun of listening to each other 
- except with Blake, Vila and <g> occasionally Orac (I've just been 
re-watching Voice - there's a couple of lovely *talking-to* moments with 
Orac there).  He compounds this with a habit of turning his back on the very 
person he *is* talking at or who's talking to him (particularly in the third 
series, I counted up the number one time, and it's fairly impressive). The 
only person he seems to talk *to* in the third series is Vila, IMO, and not 
always him.

Actually, this could be used as an argument that he *is* a loner by instict, 
but I think it's more complicated than that.  Avon prefers the company of 
people he likes/enjoys more to being alone - it's just that there are so 
damn few *of* those people (most of his own crewmates, even, don't make it.)

<Avon never seems to develop any feelings for Jenna or Gan.>

Absolutely agreed.

Back to Helen:
<Post-Rescue, he continues the secrecy he created for *good* reasons in
Terminal for more trivial missions, hiding parts of his plans.>

This I agree with.  He really doesn't like telling them anything unless he 
has to, but then, he never liked doing that with anyone, even Anna. To the 
Olde Saying "Know Thyself" Avon would have definitely added "But Don't Tell 
Anybody."

Marian:
<But there are still instances when he's prepared to take risks for the 
others, like in 'Assassin' when lets himself be taken prisoner by the 
slavers instead of allocating that task to Tarrant.>

Or one of the others ... I wonder, is it because he's the best actor of the 
lot (oh dear oh dear oh dear ... but given Soolin and Tarrant's performances 
in Gold, maybe he's right.  They obviously should have left recruiting 
scientists and gone for soapie stars and the like instead :-))

<As I said above, IMO he's always perfectly capable of being alone, and I 
don't see why that should be emotionally damaging.  I don't see Avon as 
emotionally damaged.  [No, not even in S4 :-)]>

I think he is (and frozen over badly) but it's less to do with this than 
simply four massive shocks in such a short time (Anna's betrayal in Rumours, 
finding and losing 'Blake', and losing the Liberator in Terminal, Cally's 
death in Rescue.  Who *wouldn't* come out of that lot a bit tattered?)

<And isn't it significant that in 'Blake' Avon's crew is still following 
him? After the Warlord fiasco they could have decided to drop him somewhere 
or even to leave him behind on Xenon when they leave with Scorpio, yet they 
still go along with his plans.>

<veg> do remember, the ship's computer acknowledges *him* as Master, so 
maybe they can't.  But seriously, no one was more to blame than any other 
for that fiasco (and Tarrant and Soolin especially can't talk after their 
outbreak of untrustworthy irresponsibility).  It's clear that none of the 
others are up to thinking of anything for themselves (I like Soolin a lot, 
she's bright and pragmatic, but she really doesn't think any deeper than 
Jenna or Tarrant, when you look at her).  They go along with him because he 
at least *has* ideas, and they have absolutely none.

Errr ... this seems to have gotten rather off the 'is Avon a loner' thread.  
So what do I think of that idea?  Well, as usual, that it's not that simple 
with Avon, is it :-)?


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Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 22:12:20 -0400
From: "Dana Shilling" <dshilling@worldnet.att.net>
To: "Kathryn Andersen" <kat@welkin.apana.org.au>,
	"Blake's 7 list" <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [B7L] Servalan's Clones
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Ellynne G and Kathryn:
> > So maybe Servalan had a _physical_ double made but whom she believes
> > (rightly of wrongly) doesn't have her genetic tendency to overthrow the
> > current president and appoint herself.
> > Also, given the way the Clone masters seemed to have felt about
Servalan,
> > there's no reason to believe they wouldn't have tossed in a few
> > modifications of their own.
>
> Ooooooh!  I like this idea!  A "good" Servalan!
> Instead of an Evil Twin, a Good Twin...
>
> Though unfortunately it seems likely that Good Twin is dead...

But since there were at least two Blake clones, and maybe they
knocked off a couple of Travorum for practice, so they can
keep chasing each other (in duplicate DSVs, with Rich Corinthian
Leather interiors...)

>  Avon: Logic says we're dead.
> Blake: Logic has never explained what dead is.
> (Blake's 7: Duel [A8])
AVON: Read my lips...
(Blake's7: Blake)

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Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 22:18:20 -0400
From: "Dana Shilling" <dshilling@worldnet.att.net>
To: <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: Re: [Re: [B7L] Dorian and Avon]
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Jacqui said:
>I would have thought Dorian linking up with all those extra personalities
>would create problems - not quite 'split personality' but something of that
>nature.

Perhaps a good look at the basement of Tarrant Manor will explain why
Tarrant seems a little young for his backstory....

-(Y)

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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 01:06:03 EDT
From: JEB31538@cs.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: Children of the Stones
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Children of the Stones had seven parts, each about 25 minutes.  Gareth played 
the father, Adam Brake.  This was compiled into a two video set and available 
for a while in England over the counter.  I know one of my English friends  
who has young children checked it out recently from her local library.

More information is available on Judith's site when you check Gareth Thomas's 
credits.

This is a wonderful show, and I enjoyed it thoroughly.  I have offair tapes 
and also a copy of the compilation tape.

Joyce

Joyce

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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 09:41:28 +0200
From: Natasa Tucev <tucev@tesla.rcub.bg.ac.yu>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Re: Children of the Stones
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Ellynne wrote:

>What?  He was in Children of the Stones?  I haven't seen that for ages
>(long before I saw B7).  I can't remember the characters clearly.  Was he
>the father?  What part did he play?
>

Yes, he was the father, Adam Brake. (You'll find all the relevant info on
Judith's site.) I liked his character a lot - not unlike Blake, although
much gentler. The role has also given Gareth a chance for many charming
smiles, so while watching this it is recommendable to wear a bib.

Although it is a good series, there was something about its underlying
philosophy which I disliked. In spite of the mumbo-jumbo about the
mysterious, evil alien energy which turns people into mental slaves, I think
it was primarily meant as a criticism of pre-Christian cyclic religions.
Both the circle of stones and the ritual circle made by people symbolize the
worship of natural cycles and the implication is that such worship will robe
you of your free will. The villagers who have returned to the old ways are
happy in a mechanical, mindless way which appals the newcomers. In the final
ceremony they all turn into stones, petrify, as the religions of eternal
return do not recognize the movement in time or history. The father and the
son, Adam and Matthew, probably symbolize Christianity, as they are the only
ones who manage to break away. Significantly, both women remain in the
village, under the sway of cycles.

Personally I have a much better opinion of cyclic religions, but it's still
a memorable series.

N.

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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 10:09:38 GMT
From: "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: [B7L] Servalan's Clones
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Ellynne writes:
<Sudden mental picture of Avon & co. meeting up with the good twin.  She 
explains how it was the toughest decision of her life, but she really didn't 
feel it was right to help prop up Servalan's regime anymore <snip> She also 
enjoys being able wear blue jeans, sensible shoes, and plaid shirts on a 
dayly basis.>

And she is totally impervious to the charms of Our Heroes, because she fell 
head over heels at first sight of, and is now totally and blissfully 
committed to the man of her dreams (and the bad Servie's nightmares) ...

Go on, guess <g>

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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 07:59:53 EDT
From: Mac4781@aol.com
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L]  Avon as loner? (was Dorian and Avon and *is* long ...)
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Sally wrote:

> The 
>  only person he seems to talk *to* in the third series is Vila, IMO, and 
not 
>  always him.

???  Third season is full of scenes where Avon is talking with the others, 
making plans, discussing their situation, and just simply sitting around 
chatting. 

> Avon prefers the company of 
>  people he likes/enjoys more to being alone - 

This is exactly what we see in third season.  Avon enjoys his shipmates.  We 
see him with them playing games and socializing.  These aren't times he *has* 
to be with them; he has chosen to spend time with them. 

>  <Avon never seems to develop any feelings for Jenna or Gan.>
>  
>  Absolutely agreed.

I don't agree.  I don't think you can share close quarters with anyone for 
that long without developing some feelings, most likely a complexity of 
feelings.  Some things about them you will like; other things will get on 
your nerves.
 
>  Or one of the others ... I wonder, is it because he's the best actor of 
the 
>  lot (oh dear oh dear oh dear ... but given Soolin and Tarrant's 
performances 
>  in Gold, maybe he's right.

Did we watch the same show?  Tarrant's performance as a drugged passenger was 
good enough to fool a medical doctor.  And one would expect that a doctor 
would know how a drugged passenger was supposed to behave.
  
> But seriously, no one was more to blame than any other 
>  for that fiasco (and Tarrant and Soolin especially can't talk after their 
>  outbreak of untrustworthy irresponsibility).  It's clear that none of the 
>  others are up to thinking of anything for themselves 

Aren't you contradicting yourself here?  First, you mention that Tarrant and 
Soolin were capable of thinking for themselves in WARLORD, then you say "it's 
clear that none of the others are up to thinking of anything for themselves." 
 

Yes, the others went along with Avon's plan to go to GP, which *does* suggest 
that they didn't have any better suggestions to make at that moment.  But it 
doesn't say that they couldn't ever think for themselves, and it doesn't say 
they wouldn't have come up with a better alternative if Avon hadn't hurried 
them off to GP.  They went along with it because they didn't have a good 
reason to oppose it at the time.  Hindsight wasn't available to them.  I also 
suspect they thought Avon had researched the situation better than he had.  
He *should* have known about the possibility of a gunship welcome.

There were many times when Tarrant thought for himself (as opposed to going 
along with Avon) in both third and fourth series (serving as a leader in the 
"go to Auron" decision, staying to help the Heloits, destroying the Muller 
android, to name but a few).  And Soolin's background and fourth season 
behavior--on her own since she was 8, planning and executing revenge on those 
who murdered her family, cautiously observing the Scorpio crew during RESCUE 
*before* deciding to join them, coming up with "I'm Zeeona" in WARLORD--shows 
us someone who is a capable and independent thinker. 

But I do agree with your comment that responsibility for GP should be shared. 
 The others did go along with Avon.  And they did accept that responsibility. 
 I didn't see any of them saying, "Avon, you shouldn't have brought us here; 
this is all your fault."  

Carol Mc

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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 16:03:30 +0100
From: Julia Jones <julia.lysator@jajones.demon.co.uk>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Cc: Judith Proctor <Judith@blakes-7.com>
Subject: [B7L] Review: Travis 2 miniature
Message-ID: <YzXB1JACHw85Ewc1@jajones.demon.co.uk>

(yes, Judith, you can have it for the website.)

One of the extra-curricular activities on the Nottingham theatre trip
was the waving around of the first Travis figure to come off the
painting production line. I liked it so much that I bought it...

I can't comment on the unassembled model, as I haven't seen one, but am
told it's another two parter with the base needing to be pinned and
glued to the figure itself. The assembled and painted figure is another
nice little piece, although unfortunately the facial resemblance to the
character is poor on this one, unlike the Blake and Avon figures. This
is more than made up for by the miniature's arrogant posture, which is
vintage Travis. The figure is quite clearly Travis 2, although those
with some modelling experience should be able to convert it to Travis 1
with careful use of putty.

The costume is almost entirely black, of course, but Kelvin's done a
nice job on picking out matt and gloss details on the black, which gives
it interest and makes it more realistic looking. The chest insignia and
barley sugar on the finger are present and correct. The new painting
technique being used on the face gives excellent results. 

Recommended for those who collect miniatures.
-- 
Julia Jones
"Don't philosophise with me, you electronic moron!"
        The Turing test - as interpreted by Kerr Avon.

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Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 22:14:49 -0600
From: "Ellynne G." <rilliara@juno.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [Re: [B7L] Dorian and Avon]
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On Sat, 21 Oct 2000 22:18:20 -0400 "Dana Shilling"
<dshilling@worldnet.att.net> writes:
> Jacqui said:
> >I would have thought Dorian linking up with all those extra 
> personalities
> >would create problems - not quite 'split personality' but something 
> of that
> >nature.
> 
> Perhaps a good look at the basement of Tarrant Manor will explain 
> why
> Tarrant seems a little young for his backstory....
> 
Or maybe, given the incredible resemblance between Tarrant and his
brother (who, you'll recall, had even taken to wearing a rather
unconvincing wig to try and downplay it) maybe Tarrant Sr. made a trip to
the Clone masters and had all his little boys just THINK they did all the
stuff he did.

Deva: I'm going to be the hotshot outlaw gunman!
Del: No, I am!
Delinquent: Dad said said I could be the outlaw!

Ellynne
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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 20:33:43 GMT
From: "Sally Manton" <smanton@hotmail.com>
To: Mac4781@aol.com, blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Avon as loner? (was Dorian and Avon and *is* long ...)
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Carol wrote:
<Third season is full of scenes where Avon is talking with the others, 
making plans, discussing their situation, and just simply sitting around 
chatting.>

As I said, IMHO he talks *at* them, not *to* them (yes even when and 
especially when it's not crisis/'work' related.  That's quite often the 
times he's turns his back on them.) I never said he takes on a vow of 
silence (he wouldn't, too fond of the sound of his own voice).  I also 
pointed out that it "comes from what we each see on the screen."  Since this 
was IMHO.

<I don't agree.  I don't think you can share close quarters with anyone for 
that long without developing some feelings, most likely a complexity of 
feelings.>

I couldn't - you couldn't.  My Avon is more than capable of it, but he isn't 
you or me.  On the evidence on screen, he's almost totally indifferent to 
them as people.

<Did we watch the same show?  Tarrant's performance as a drugged passenger 
was good enough to fool a medical doctor.>

A very *stupid* medical doctor.

<Aren't you contradicting yourself here?  First, you mention that Tarrant 
and Soolin were capable of thinking for themselves in WARLORD, then you say 
"it's clear that none of the others are up to thinking of anything for 
themselves.">

That was thinking?!?!?  They quite blatantly risked alienating their most 
powerful potential ally, blowing the whole alliance, risking the base *and 
their crewmates* so that Tarrant could carry on his Romeo bit with the 
appalling person in the pink wig.  Yes, Zukan was planning to turn on them, 
but they didn't know that when they did it.

If that's capable thinking, give me Jarriere any day.  I suppose I can 
understand Tarrant's outbreak (they all do it at times, and he's cracking 
under pressure as much as Avon and Vila) but I still haven't worked out a 
half-way barely acceptable reason for Soolin.

Okay, we'll amend my sentence if we must.  It's clear that none of the 
others are up to thinking of anything half-way sensible for themselves.

As for your other examples - both Tarrant and Soolin were quite good at 
acting on the fly, swiftly and without too much thought or planning (there 
was precious little thought in the Auron decision by anyone involved - it 
was only after *Avon* caved in that *he* thought of consulting Orac about 
what they might be heading into).  They're react rather than pro-act.  
Neither of them - nor Vila, nor Dayna - seemed to have the faintest concept 
of thinking *ahead* (Cally does, but only in a vague, unplanned way).  Which 
is why they went along with Avon even when they [a] knew he'd kept stuff 
from them, [b] really had misgivings or even disliked what he was suggesting 
(I like in 'Assassin' where Tarrant is snarling about Avon's 'first good 
idea' but it doesn't occurs to him to come up with an alternative.)





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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 07:45:44 EST
From: "J MacQueen" <j_macqueen@hotmail.com>
To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se
Subject: Re: [B7L] Food and fantasy
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>From: "Dana Shilling" <dshilling@worldnet.att.net>
>Nobody knows the truffles I've seen,

<groan> And now ice scream.

So does everyone else, probably.

Regards
Joanne
(wondering where she put that book of Beatles lyrics, for Sally's 
benefit...)


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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 17:26:00 -0600
From: Betty Ragan <ragan@sdc.org>
To: B7 Lyst <blakes7@lysator.liu.se>
Subject: [B7L] Planning and acting skills (was Re: Avon as loner?)
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Jumping in here... :)

Responding to Carol Mc, Sally Manton wrote:

> <Did we watch the same show?  

I thought it had long since been established that the answer to that is
"no"?:)

> Tarrant's performance as a drugged passenger
> was good enough to fool a medical doctor.>
> 
> A very *stupid* medical doctor.

Actually, I do think Tarrant & Soolin's goofy drugged-up act is better
than Avon's innocent act, but that ain't exactly saying much...  IMO,
Vila appears to be the only decent actor of the lot, and even he has his
off days.  No, actually, come to think of it, *Blake* does a really good
bit of improvisational acting with the Andromedans...  Yet another
reason to lament his disappearance.

> As for your other examples - both Tarrant and Soolin were quite good at
> acting on the fly, swiftly and without too much thought or planning (there
> was precious little thought in the Auron decision by anyone involved - it
> was only after *Avon* caved in that *he* thought of consulting Orac about
> what they might be heading into).  They're react rather than pro-act.
> Neither of them - nor Vila, nor Dayna - seemed to have the faintest concept
> of thinking *ahead* (Cally does, but only in a vague, unplanned way).

I think this is a fault they *all* suffer from to one degree or another,
actually.  (Though it may not be *entirely* a personality thing...  You
could probably make an argument that the kind of life they're leading
encourages this sort of thing, if only because at some point people are
going to reach the limit of their ability to stay ahead of an
intrinsically unpredictable environment.)  Avon does seem to be the best
of the lot at planning ahead... God help them.

-- 
Betty Ragan ** ragan@sdc.org ** http://www.sdc.org/~ragan/
"I love hearing that lonesome wail of the train whistle as
the magnitude of the frequency of the wave changes due to 
the Doppler effect."  -- Sidney Harris

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