From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V00 #290 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume00/290 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 290 Today's Topics: [B7L] Fabulous Films "to release B7 [ Judith Proctor ] Re: [B7L] Sleer & Servalan [ "Marian de Haan" ] Re: [B7L] Christmas presents [ Kathryn Andersen ] Re: [B7L] Fantasy [ "J MacQueen" ] [B7L] Cambridge theatre trip [ Nicola Collie To: Lysator List Cc: Freedom City Subject: [B7L] Fabulous Films "to release B7 on DVD"! (fwd) Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I've had this from two people today (thanks Rob W and Rob H) According to reliable site DVD Debate.com - Fabulous Films have confirmed to them that they intend releasing B7 on DVD in the second quarter of 2001. Hopefully this link should take you to the relevant site:http://www.dvddebate.com/index.php3. Judith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 22:25:21 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Cc: Freedom City Subject: [B7L] Cult TV Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII >From Cult TV: STEPHEN W PARSONS - Writer and Producer of "Rough Magik" a new pilot for a proposed TV series starring Blake's Seven actor Paul Darrow. Stephen will be at the Festival to talk about this new fantasy series and the pilot will be given it's first ever public screening during the weekend exclusively for Cult TV attendees. Also Hattie Hayridge (Holly)is now on the guest list. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org ) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 10:08:43 +0200 From: Natasa Tucev To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Gallows humour Message-Id: <200010170808.KAA28081@Tesla.rcub.bg.ac.yu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dana wrote: > >Natasa cited: >> JENNA: What do you think they'll do to us? >> BLAKE: Something unfriendly. >from SpaceFall--I think it's in the same episode where >Blake suggests that Jenna experiment with the instruments; >she asks what'll happen if she finds the Auto-Destruct (as she >presumably did in earnest, later on) and Blake says he'll >never speak to her again. > (It's in Cygnus Alpha I think.) Oh, yes... It never occured to me. If you view this as a cross-reference to the events reported in 'Blake', it's really morbid. She really hits the self-destruct and he really doesn't speak to her again. BTW, there is another B-J exchange which just doesn't make sense to me. It's from Duel: JENNA: That's one way to become a hunted man. Trust the powerful. BLAKE: True. What's your excuse? JENNA: Oh, I wasn't careful enough. Wouldn't it make more sense if she said, 'Oppose the powerful?' She opposed the Terra Nostra by refusing to smuggle drugs for them, and Blake opposed the Federation. Natasa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 08:38:22 GMT From: "Sally Manton" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] [B7_Avon] Some more random thoughts about Rescue Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Dorian is icky, and his rolling-eyes bit at the end cringe-worthy. I agree with Marian about My Darling's costume - he does from his best leather-n-studs look to his worst. Dorian may have impeccable taste in wine and women, but defin-ITE-ly not in haute couture (pity we didn’t get to see his private rooms - I have a feeling the bedroom would have been pseudo-kitsch-decadence on a Super-*Not*-Economy-Size scale. Vila might have liked it ...) What interests me is the script emphasis on the group belonging together - 'bonded' through adversity - but at the same time fractured through the same adversity (Tarrant *twice* mentions his distrust of Avon at this point, not surprising after the way Avon treated him in Terminal, and Dayna doesn’t really defend Avon the second time. In the next episode, Power, Avon reciprocates the feeling. What happened on Terminal *hurt*.) The relationships are beginning to get more interesting again (for me) after the muffled 3rd season ... Perhaps they're trying to keep each others' spirits up? After all, they’re all in constant danger - sitting down and having a good brooding session might feel good, but ain't going to help the situation, thye need to keep their emotions - whatever they are - on hold. The chirpy joking on the stairwell is a bit much, but then they're both very young to be as well acquainted with violent death as they are ... <[Could that be why she's calling for Blake, knowing he's the only one who won't balk at mourning her openly? :-)]> Or *she's* in the middle of a good brooding session over *his* death, and thinking about him when the place goes up .... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 08:39:44 GMT From: "Sally Manton" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Sleer & Servalan Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed This is Servalan. She's probably killed just about everyone who she thinks might be a threat to her power (remember Tiberius Caesar, who left Rome entirely and went to live on Capri) and left everyone else in a state of mistrust and terror. Of course, Servalan miscalculates just how much she can leave her empire and go indulge her private obsessions (she's actually not in power for very long *at all* when you think about it - a very very minor President, a footnote in the history books, methinks) and does get booted out. Nice idea, but a Supreme Clone is IMHO the *last* person in the universe Servalan would trust for ten minutes, let alone months on end :-) After all, she saw just exactly how long they were able to control the Blake clone before it started running amuck (oh, several hours, maybe??). A Servalan clone might too easily turn out just as treacherous, megalomaniac and devious as the real thing, and prefer to *be* the only real thing ... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 09:21:13 -0400 From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" Subject: Re: [B7L] DVD Message-ID: <200010170921_MC2-B742-9518@compuserve.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Julia quoted: >After a lengthy chat with the UK distributors > we can exclusively reveal that Fabulous Films > have some very definite plans for a region 2 = >DVD release of the classic 80's sci-fi series = >Blakes 7. The bad news is that they're looking > at a 2nd quarter 2001 release date at present so don't >start looking on shelves until about Easter time. Ah, so that gives me time to get organised to buy a DVD player. Do you think they'll use the same photos, or is there any point our sendi= ng Fab our own list of more sensible ones? Harriet ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 09:21:26 -0400 From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" Subject: Re: [B7L] Christmas presents Message-ID: <200010170922_MC2-B742-951A@compuserve.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline What are these gift certificates people keep mentioning? Marian wrote: >Considering the fact that the habit is worn by >a man, it's all too conceivable its original function > has been long forgotten Now, what were those blokes in nuns' habits who used to turn out at all t= he London demos called? Sisters of something or other. Canonised Derek Jarman. It would be nice if they still survived somewhere in the future (and still had a Jarman cult). Harriet ------------------------------ Date: 17 Oct 2000 15:47:39 +0200 From: Calle Dybedahl To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" Subject: Re: [B7L] DVD Message-ID: <86snpv7f5w.fsf@tezcatlipoca.algonet.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>>>> "Harriet" == Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> writes: > Do you think they'll use the same photos, or is there any point our sending > Fab our own list of more sensible ones? Wouldn't it be more fun to send them the list of senseless ones? -- Calle Dybedahl, Vasav. 82, S-177 52 Jaerfaella,SWEDEN | calle@lysator.liu.se "I like darkness, because it shows us light" -- Victoria McManus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 15:03:52 +0100 From: Alison Page To: "'blakes7@lysator.liu.se'" Subject: Re: [B7L] Christmas presents Message-ID: <21B0197931E1D211A26E0008C79F6C4AB0C7D3@BRAMLEY> Content-Type: text/plain Harriet said - >>Now, what were those blokes in nuns' habits who used to turn out at all the London demos called? Sisters of something or other. 'The Sisters of perpetual indulgence' IIRC Alison ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:03:29 +0200 From: "Marian de Haan" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] DVD Message-ID: <001e01c0385c$3002a400$4cef72c3@marian-de-haan.multiweb.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To Harriet's suggestion: >> Do you think they'll use the same photos, or is there any point our sending Fab our own list of more sensible ones?<< Calle replied: >Wouldn't it be more fun to send them the list of senseless ones?< Dont! They might take it seriously :-) Marian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:56:02 +0200 From: "Marian de Haan" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Sleer & Servalan Message-ID: <000801c03863$863aeba0$4cef72c3@marian-de-haan.multiweb.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To my: >< Sally replied: >This is Servalan. She's probably killed just about everyone who she thinks might be a threat to her power (remember Tiberius Caesar, who left Rome entirely and went to live on Capri) and left everyone else in a state of mistrust and terror. Of course, Servalan miscalculates just how much she can leave her empire and go indulge her private obsessions (she's actually not in power for very long *at all* when you think about it - a very very minor President, a footnote in the history books, methinks) and does get booted out.< The atrocities she commits in that brief time may give her a more prominent place in the history books. After all, she commits genocide on a scale Hitler could only dream of. >< >Nice idea, but a Supreme Clone is IMHO the *last* person in the universe Servalan would trust for ten minutes, let alone months on end :-) After all, she saw just exactly how long they were able to control the Blake clone before it started running amuck (oh, several hours, maybe??). A Servalan clone might too easily turn out just as treacherous, megalomaniac and devious as the real thing, and prefer to *be* the only real thing ...< Yet she seems confident she'll be able to control the 12 (?) clones we see in Children of Auron. Imagine they had survived - the infighting would never stop! Raja: I'm going to be president. Travisa: No, I'll be president! Avona: Mother's going to appoint me. Carnella: No, she's promised it to me! Tarranta: Never! I'm here favourite. Donna: She knows that you put that frog in her bed. Tarranta: That wasn't me, that was Jarrierra... Someone write the story, please. Marian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 06:06:26 +1100 From: Kathryn Andersen To: "Blake's 7 list" Subject: Re: [B7L] Christmas presents Message-ID: <20001018060626.B15233@welkin.apana.org.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 09:21:26AM -0400, Harriet Monkhouse wrote: > What are these gift certificates people keep mentioning? Gift vouchers. You go to a particular store, say, a book store or a department store, and you pay then money, and they give you a piece of paper, and you give the piece of paper as your present, and the givee goes to the store, and picks out something to the value of the money you originally gave the store, gives the piece of paper to the store, and leaves with the item. All clear now? Some stores have fixed amounts for their gift certificates ($10, $20, $50) while others have a blank spot where they write in the amount. Kathryn Andersen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- I'm an alien I'm a legal alien I'm an Englishman in New York I'm an alien I'm a legal alien I'm an Englishman in New York (Sting - Englishman In New York) -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen / \ | \_.--.*/ | v | #include "standard/disclaimer.h" ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 08:25:48 EST From: "J MacQueen" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Christmas presents Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> >Now, what were those blokes in nuns' habits who used to turn out at all the >London demos called? Sisters of something or other. As Alison said, The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. Sound like the sort of people who'd have a whale of a time at one of Krantor's soirees. He'd probably be amused by the names they adopt. Wish I could remember an example. Regards Joanne (who will not mention the somewhat dubious idea that popped into her head of Jarriere in a nun's habit - oh.) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 16:01:06 -0700 From: Mistral To: B7 lyst Subject: Re: [B7L] Christmas presents Message-ID: <39ECDA32.939DDF8C@centurytel.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joanne wrote: > (who will not mention the somewhat dubious idea that popped into her head of > Jarriere in a nun's habit - oh.) In that case I've no idea why it just occurred to me that, as everyone else was obviously in costume - including Servalan with her red dress and mask - maybe Jarriere was simply being more subtle and wearing his 'clueless' costume? Mistral ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 10:51:44 EST From: "J MacQueen" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Fantasy Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I was deciding what to delete from a folder when I reread this: >From: Alison Page >and rich women with Aga's taking their labradors for a walk Argh! I plead a sore upper limb as my only defence, but that is a hell of a multipurpose stove. Alison, please try to forgive me... Regards Joanne _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 23:01:07 -0600 From: "Ellynne G." To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] [B7_Avon] Some more random thoughts about Rescue Message-ID: <20001017.230108.-469121.0.rilliara@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 08:38:22 GMT "Sally Manton" writes: > Dorian is icky, and his rolling-eyes bit at the end cringe-worthy. > > I agree with Marian about My Darling's costume - he does from his > best > leather-n-studs look to his worst. Dorian may have impeccable taste > in wine > and women, but defin-ITE-ly not in haute couture I always thought there was a deliberate, disturbing message when Dorian changed into an outfit like Avon's. Red is more associated with blood (which Dorian had enough of on his hands) and lusts (which Dorian also admitted to having some extremely nonsocially redeeming experience in). Black can represent death, inner darkness, and reason (it can represent other things, but these seem to be Avon pertinent elements). But their similiarities seem to be getting lined up. Dorian is extremely intelligent and the selfish survivor out for himself Avon claims to be. He's quickly established as gifted with computers (creating Slave, fixing Orac, past experience with Ensor) and is hard a t work on a teleport system. Then there's the way Dorian enjoys playing games with Avon, giving him the puzzle pieces and watching him put them together. What's also interesting is Avon's basic understanding of Dorian, the way he doesn't trust him and refuses (unlike his usualy style) to get drawn into Dorian's brain games. His attitude seems to be, 'I already know everything about you I need to.' True, he's right, but it also suggests something else, that Avon understands Dorian because of underlying similarities. JMHO - well, not even that, just my humble speculation, but maybe this was an attempt to foreshadow Avon's decline and growing ruthlessness over S4. Any thoughts? Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 08:36:06 +0100 From: Nicola Collie To: Freedom City , Lysator Subject: [B7L] Cambridge theatre trip Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Calling all fen in Cambridge and nearby - would you like to see Stephen Pacey's play, "A Family Affair" at the Cambridge Arts Theatre? A couple of us are planning to go on Weds 25 Oct; the performance that evening is followed by a post-show talk by some (undefined) members of the cast. There's some limited guff about the play here: http://www.cambridgeartstheatre.com/pages/sp-family.html. Box office phone number is 01223 503 333 If you want to go with us, email me at this address as soon as poss. I'm happy to book tickets for others (prices 5 pounds to 17 pounds), or we can just plan to meet up on the night. Nicola -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V00 Issue #290 **************************************