From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V00 #217 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume00/217 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 217 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L] Re: Avon and Guada Prime [ Judith Proctor ] Re: [B7L] Re: Avon and Guada Prime [ "Lysias" ] Re: [B7L] Re: Avon and Guada Prime [ "Lysias" ] Re: [B7L] Models [ Jacqueline Thijsen ] Re: [B7L] Avalon (was The charge aga [ Ika ] Re: [B7L] Avalon (was The charge aga [ "Marian de Haan" ] [B7L] Redemption [ B7Morrigan@aol.com ] Re: [B7L] Parsec {was Orbit} [ "Andrew Ellis" To: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Avon and Guada Prime Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Sun 30 Jul, Pat Sumner wrote: > From: > Sent: 30 July 2000 13:17 > > > Blake's security system was > > flawed in that an entire flock of Feds were able to penetrate his > base. This > > is not a track record that would inspire the Scorpio crew to sign on > the > > dotted line. > > My opinion is that the Federation guards were not there to capture > Blake and his 'nest of rebels', but were the security personnel that > Klyn requested. KLYN: I don't know. It's not something I can pin down precisely. One or two transports have crossed without clearance, some flyers that weren't planned for the area, that sort of thing. Could be the Federation's observer's finally arrived, of course. I think the troops were the Federation Observers, probably contacted by Arlen. AS seen here, they were on their way before Klyn called for help. > > The base is a Federation run base, set up to allow Fed personnel to > pretend to be rebels, to think like them, the better to infiltrate or > catch the real thing. In essence, they are roleplaying. I'd go for it on a one-off basis in a story, but not for the actual series. > > Blake (assuming he's the original) has been conditioned to work for > the Federation instead of against. The series has established that > people can be conditioned (some more easily than others, like Dayna in > 'Animals'), and since Blake's mind has been tampered with before, it > could more easily be adjusted again. Blake has thrown off conditioning before, that makes him far too much of a risk. If he's thrown it off once, he'll probably do it more easily a second time, especially as familiar situations are those most likely to cause the conditioning to fail. > > Servalan's motivation in 'Warlord' is clearer, I think. > She arranged for the 'rebel alliance' set up by Avon to fail, and > arranged for Zukan to bomb the base, and leave everyone there dead. > She could have arranged for the entire base, and everyone inside, to > be completely destroyed, as soon as Zukan's ship touched down. But > that would have also meant the destruction of Orac and the Teleport. > Since Avon knows that one of the alliance will betray him to the > Federation, he will have no other choice but to abandon base. I'd go a little bit simpler than that. Servalan expected them all to die. Zukan's sheme would have worked if Zeeona hadn't been there. SERVALAN: Are they dead? ZUKAN: Dying. Now. Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org ) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:42:35 GMT From: "Sally Manton" To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Avon and Guada Prime (leaving Del out now) Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Judith and Louise, thanks for your answers (I can't believe I missed that explanation re Avon, being as I am *always* ready to believe the best of My Heroes ...) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:54:19 GMT From: "Sally Manton" To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Blake model Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Judith wrote: Don't know about body shots (but then he wears a much looser uniform than the Travii) but there's lots of wonderful pictures of that unique face, nose and curls-to-rival-Tarrant-or-Blake on Paul James' site. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 06:25:04 -0400 From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" Subject: [B7L] Models Message-ID: <200007310625_MC2-AE0F-B8B3@compuserve.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sally wrote: >Have we got enough takers for a Vila yet? (and I'm = >with Harriet on the Jarriere too, surprise surprise). Since Susie just mentioned it on the other list, have we any more takers for Servalan? I actually thought it would be easier to raise five orders= for her than for Jarriere, but I suppose that just shows how extremely devoted Jarriere fans are. Harriet ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 02:47:43 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List Subject: Re: [B7L] Models Message-ID: <39854B3E.798D6F38@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harriet Monkhouse wrote: > Since Susie just mentioned it on the other list, have we any more takers > for Servalan? I actually thought it would be easier to raise five orders > for her than for Jarriere, but I suppose that just shows how extremely > devoted Jarriere fans are. I shall second your earlier wish that Servalan be portrayed in the red dress; though how one would render that collar in metal is a bit puzzling? Mistral -- "Ad hoc, ad loc, and quid pro quo. So little time! So much to know!" --Jeremy Hilary Boob, Ph.D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:03:27 GMT From: "Sally Manton" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Models Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Harriet wrote: Too true ... as our motto says, discriminating. I've ordered Avon and Blake, and will commit to Jarriere (two, if it'll help get the numbers :-)). Sorry, but the Supreme Commander or either Travii doesn't really move me or my wallet, but have we got the numbers for *Vila* yet? Oh, just for the hell of it, I'd spring for an Og ... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:33:19 EST From: "Jessica Taylor" To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Models Message-ID: <20000731113319.20810.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Harriet: I actually thought it would be easier to raise five orders >for her than for Jarriere, but I suppose that just shows how extremely >devoted Jarriere fans are. > The Jarriere-eteers. Jessica ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 03:48:46 -0700 From: mistral@ptinet.net To: B7 List Subject: Re: [B7L] Models Message-ID: <3985598D.B42A1812@ptinet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sally wrote: > Oh, just for the hell of it, I'd spring for an Og ... Psst! Shh, Sally, or Una will spring for a dozen and we'll *never* get Vila and Soolin... Mistral -- "Ad hoc, ad loc, and quid pro quo. So little time! So much to know!" --Jeremy Hilary Boob, Ph.D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:52:47 EST From: "Jessica Taylor" To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] quarry trip Message-ID: <20000731115247.31122.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Judith reporting: >We had a great day at Winspit. Not only did the sun shine gloriously >(which >makes drying wet clothes much simpler) we ran into a group of Dr Who fans >visiting the planet Skaro, so we loaned them some spare supersoakers and >then shot them from ambush . Hee-hee, good on you. That sounds like so much fun. Did anyone take any piccies? >It was great to see some new faces too - we had several fans with us who >hadn't >been to the quarry before. Ooh I am so jealous, glad to hear y'all had a good time. You had a water pistol fight, so who won? Jessica ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 15:42:55 +0200 From: "Marian de Haan" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Avon and Guada Prime Message-ID: <002c01bffaf5$3b5ac840$e1ed72c3@marian-de-haan.multiweb.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Pat wrote: >< Sally commented: >Nothing wrong with it as a theory I guess (or fanfic cliche - I've read several of these, usually blatantly written to let My Darling off the hook) but it makes nonsense of the entire plot, doesn't it? If he's working for the Federation, why on earth does he test people/talk to Deva about a base and an army, etc etc?< Maybe he's been conditioned in such a way to make him think he's still working for the resistance? :-) Marian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 07:32:34 -0800 From: "Lysias" To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Avon and Guada Prime Message-Id: <1500545897965053954@apexmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Carol writes: >Tarrant is about to reveal to Deva that Blake is Blake (with a bounty o= f his >own on his head). Blake tells him he's wasting his breath (because Dev= a >already knows this). They are then distracted by the arrival of Avon's= flyer >and Tarrant makes his quick exit. Shortly after that Blake tells us th= at >Tarrant passed the test. Now I'd like to think that haring off to prot= ect >his shipmates was what gave Tarrant a passing grade, but the earlier sc= ene >with Arlen suggests that it was betraying Blake that won him that honor= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 07:36:40 -0800 From: "Lysias" To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Avon and Guada Prime Message-Id: <1746367934965054200@apexmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Let's try that again! the text missing from the end of my previous email = is as follows: >I'd agree with that; it certainly makes a lot of sense. I can't believe= >I hadn't noticed the irony before! >If Blake's criteria for 'passing' is turning against him as a result of= >his apparent treachery, then who passed best of all? >-- >Lysias ____________________________________ Email services provided by ApexMail http://www.apexmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:21:19 +0200 From: Jacqueline Thijsen To: B7 List Subject: Re: [B7L] Models Message-Id: <4.3.1.0.20000731161943.00a6e670@pop3.wish.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 12:48 31-7-00, mistral@ptinet.net wrote: >Sally wrote: > > > Oh, just for the hell of it, I'd spring for an Og ... > >Psst! Shh, Sally, or Una will spring for a dozen and we'll *never* >get Vila and Soolin... I'll promise to order a Vila, if that helps. Only please not when he's being eaten by the yellow tapeworm. Jacqueline ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:38:30 +0200 From: Jacqueline Thijsen To: Lysator Subject: Re: [B7L] Redemption Message-Id: <4.3.1.0.20000731163618.00a6f290@pop3.wish.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 04:19 31-7-00, Steve Rogerson wrote: >Hi, just a reminder for anyone thinking of booking for Redemption but >hasn't yet done so, the discount for early bookers runs out in one >month's time. If you book before the end of August, the adult weekend >rate is 40 pound. From 1 September it is 45 pound. Early this year there was mention of the possibility of paying by credit card. I have not yet seen this option appear on the website. Are you planning to make this possible before we have to pay the higher rate? Jacqueline ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 10:44:57 EDT From: Mac4781@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: Avon and Guada Prime Message-ID: <78.8607f13.26b6eae9@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lysia wrote: >If Blake's criteria for 'passing' is turning against him as a result of >his apparent treachery, then who passed best of all? LOL! That's brilliant, Lysia. Carol Mc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 10:14:09 -0400 From: "Dana Shilling" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Avalon (was The charge against Blake) Message-ID: <00c801bffb00$89691400$0a6a4e0c@dshilling> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Replying to Ika (and bearing in mind which list this is> > > > Random thought from me is that I think Blake might well have become unbearable > very quickly if he was surrounded by real rebels. He has (imho) a bit of a > desire to convert (orate at length about his Cause) which means he might well > be happier with non-politicals around him who he can convert. 1. He has a conversion ratio of 0, which would discourage at least some people. 2. If he had a bunch of real revolutionaries, they would ENJOY it when he orated at length about the Cause. Some activities are best carried on on a consensual basis. -(Y) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:06:16 +0000 From: Murray To: Lysator Subject: Re: [B7L] The charge against Blake (was Orbit) Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Marian, You mentioned that the lack of people in the series (other than Raiker) who brought up Blake's conviction for child abuse was 'a gaping and irritating plot-hole'. I agree, and have to point out that it's a plot hole that has rarely been looked at by the writers of B7 fanfiction. I recently finished one story that has: 'Haunted' by Nickey Barnard, from the zine 'Pressure Point'. The reason it suggested for Blake's failure as a rebel was that too many potential supporters believed in the false conviction. Murray ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:50:25 GMT From: Ika To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Avalon (was The charge against Blake) Message-Id: <200007311656.RAA19966@smtp.uk2net.com> Dana Replying to me (and bearing in mind which > list this is> > > > > > Random thought from me is that I think Blake might well have become > unbearable > > very quickly if he was surrounded by real rebels. He has (imho) a bit of a > > desire to convert (orate at length about his Cause) which means he might > well > > be happier with non-politicals around him who he can convert. > 1. He has a conversion ratio of 0, which would discourage at least some > people. Discouragement isn't in Blake's dictionary. In fact everything from "dandy" to just before "dismemberment" seems to be missing :) (Joke, and blatantly ripped off from Douglas Adams) > 2. If he had a bunch of real revolutionaries, they would ENJOY it when he > orated at length about the Cause. Some activities are best carried on on a > consensual basis. It would depend what they thought of Blake. If, for example, Blake was seen as the equivalent of the SWP (Socialist Workers Party, known to its detractors as Student W*nker Party), and he met up with a load of people from the Revolutionary Communist Party, they would give his oration far shorter shrift than *anyone* on the Liberator, bar maybe Avon. ("Yes, Blake, we *know*. When are we going to go blow something up?") Though to be fair oration and action do tend to go hand in hand with Uncle B. Love, Ika ---------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using http://uk2.net NEWS - CHEAPEST DEDICATED SERVERS IN THE WORLD - 29/month UK's FREE Domains, FREE Dialup, FREE Webdesign, FREE email ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 19:57:20 +0200 From: "Marian de Haan" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Avalon (was The charge against Blake) Message-ID: <001f01bffb18$d5865240$e7ee72c3@marian-de-haan.multiweb.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dana replying to Ika: >> Random thought from me is that I think Blake might well have become unbearable very quickly if he was surrounded by real rebels. He has (imho) a bit of a desire to convert (orate at length about his Cause) which means he might well be happier with non-politicals around him who he can convert.<< >1. He has a conversion ratio of 0, which would discourage at least some people.< Not Blake :-) >2. If he had a bunch of real revolutionaries, they would ENJOY it when he orated at length about the Cause.< If they were the kind of armchair revolutionaries I remember from my youth, they would prefer listening to him for any length of time above actually having to accompany him on his missions :-) Marian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:26:38 EDT From: B7Morrigan@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Redemption Message-ID: <28.8b1cb95.26b73afe@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The headline in my local newspaper yesterday was "Bush Seeks Redemption." I thought perhaps that Steve or Judith might send him a flyer... Morrigan "Cynic: Someone who, when he smells flowers, looks for a coffin." H.L. Mencken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 23:57:54 +0100 From: "Andrew Ellis" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Parsec {was Orbit} Message-ID: <009301bffcd5$901b3900$a82e073e@leanet> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Gary >I'm not sure about the one second on arc at that distance, but the correct >'yardstick' for a parsec is 3.26 light years. You are both partly correct. Its the distance at which an object the same size as our orbit arround the sun subtends an arc of 1 second, and 3.26 LY is near enough. >The crowd does >note your exposure of Han Solo's use being incorrect. i.e. a distance being a measure of velocity. And how many people always get the dimensions correct today. People quote a mass when they weigh vegatables (which gives the acceleration due to gravity), and a mass to quote a force. And modems are quoted as sixty four kilobit, or at best sixty four kilobits, not sixty fourkilo bits per second. New York is about six hours away from Heathrow. erm. time instead of distance ? I'm not saying that Han was correct, just making the sort of mistake that is made everyday. The important thing is, everybody knew what he meant. >>And the fact that they go faster than light passes un-noticed . >> >>God, I hate bad science! >> Me to, but I try to remember that the whole concept is based on quite fundamental breaches of science as we know it. So if some side plot device appears to also breach modern scientific principles, I try not to worry. Think of it this way. First we had Newtons laws of motion. They work on the measurement scales available at the time. Technology improves, we can do new things and make better measurements. Einstiens Law of Relativity (special and general) are now required to predict events in this new regime. But Newtons laws MUST be a subset, a generalisation under certain conditions (v << c for special relativity). Technology improves even further, and it appears that Relativity is everywhere. It's behind power stations, it powers our low earth orbit transport system. We live and breath the twin paradox. But football is still governed perfectly well by Newtons laws. Some time later, Squirbles law comes along, allowing continuous acceleration of a particle from rest to v >> c, in certain circumstances. Don't ask me how, thats what we need to do this type of Sci-Fi. This must be in a certain special set of circumstances, but must also allow the existence of the previous laws as a simplification of squirbles law. Its OK to have a different reality to ours, but it must be self consistent (Squirbles law applies always), but must also contain normality as a subset. Gnog ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 23:59:50 +0100 From: "Andrew Ellis" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] Parsec {was Orbit} Message-ID: <009401bffcd5$91ae0e00$a82e073e@leanet> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lysias Gary writes to Judith: As for Tachyons... As far as we know, they don't interact with normal matter. So there. But just think what would happen if a Tachion travelling at v = 2c collided with a normal particle of the same mass at rest ! Gnog ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 19:15:25 EDT From: B7Morrigan@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Parsec {was Orbit} Message-ID: <38.9639880.26b7628d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gnog is making my head explode. The most appalling part of it was that I understood what he was saying (shudder) I didn't _like_ physics in high school but Father Ralph Townsend would be highly amused to discover I'm trying to learn it to write fanfic. (A lovely man; he'd put 4 questions on a test. First one student would say "I don't understand question 2." Fr. Ralph would go to the blackboard, explain it in detail, usually giving the answer. Then another question would say "I don't understand question 4" and so on ) Morrigan "When I get a little money I buy zines; and if any is left I buy food and clothes." (apologies to Erasmus) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 19:44:25 -0400 From: "Dana Shilling" To: "b7" Subject: [B7L] Jenna Message-ID: <004401bffb49$4a021ca0$116a4e0c@dshilling> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a story, I referred parenthetically to Vila and Gan thinking of Jenna as "a real lady." This was questioned in an LOC. Leaving aside the possibility that she might not be but Vila and Gan would think she was, I'd be interested to know what you think about Jenna's back- story. Servalan calls her something like "a high-grade Federation citizen," which is not necessarily the same thing. I tend to think of her as a debutante gone astray, but those horrible suburban vowels make me think her family was nouveau riche. -(Y) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 19:36:50 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L] Models Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Mon 31 Jul, mistral@ptinet.net wrote: > > I shall second your earlier wish that Servalan be portrayed in the red > dress; though how one would render that collar in metal is a bit puzzling? I think it would look very heavy in white metal - it would have to be fairly thick to have the strength. Are there any other particular outfits that would suit? Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org ) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:37:04 +0100 (BST) From: Judith Proctor To: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L] quarry trip Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Tue 01 Aug, Jessica Taylor wrote: > Judith reporting: > >We had a great day at Winspit. Not only did the sun shine gloriously > >(which > >makes drying wet clothes much simpler) we ran into a group of Dr Who fans > >visiting the planet Skaro, so we loaned them some spare supersoakers and > >then shot them from ambush . > > Hee-hee, good on you. That sounds like so much fun. > Did anyone take any piccies? A few, but I don't think I had the best film for the weather. We had seven of us on top of the teleport rock (and number 8 taking the photo). I took a photo for the Who fans using their camera as the Tardis landed on the same rock . > > >It was great to see some new faces too - we had several fans with us who > >hadn't > >been to the quarry before. > > Ooh I am so jealous, glad to hear y'all had a good time. > You had a water pistol fight, so who won? Well I reckon Daniel lost (very sportingly I might add) as he looked wettest at the end. I'm not sure if anyone won per se (though the Who fans got suitably drenched). I was doing pretty well until Richard shot me in the back... Alliences shifted pretty rapidly depending on which people were in a good position to ambush those who'd left the caves to reload with more water. We just tended to team up with whoever was in a good position. Basically, never resist a good ambush position that allows you to shoot a friend - we're B7 fans after all! Judith -- http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 - Fanzines for Blake's 7, B7 Filk songs, pictures, news, Conventions past and present, Blake's 7 fan clubs, Gareth Thomas, etc. (also non-Blake's 7 zines at http://www.knightwriter.org ) Redemption '01 23-25 Feb 2001 http://www.smof.com/redemption/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 01:03:38 -0600 From: Penny Dreadful To: Lysator List Subject: Re: [B7L] Models Message-Id: <4.1.20000801010140.009774a0@mail.powersurfr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:36 PM 7/31/00 +0100, Judith Proctor wrote: >I think it would look very heavy in white metal - it would have to be fairly >thick to have the strength. Okay, I'll reveal myself as (a) totally out of it, and (b) too lazy to look it up online: What exactly is "white metal"? -- For A Dread Time, Call Penny: http://members.tripod.com/~Penny_Dreadful/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 19:01:15 EST From: "Jessica Taylor" To: Blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Pressure Point Message-ID: <20000801090115.64074.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I was re-watching Pressure Point earlier and I noticed something that I wasn't too sure about. After they got out of the cave, they went straight to the forbidden zone surrounding the entrance and started breaking in, bearing in mind that everyone already told Blake that they were not going on a suicide mission, how on earth, without teleport bracelets did they expect to get out. They were planning on blowing the place up, weren't they? Jessica "The stories are entertainment for mortals, the events themselves are entertainment for gods" ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V00 Issue #217 **************************************