From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V00 #141 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume00/141 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 141 Today's Topics: [B7L] First Impressions: "Orac" Re: [B7L] First Impressions: "Orac" Re: [B7L] First Impressions: "Orac" Re: [B7L] First Impressions: "Orac" Teeth [was Re: [B7L] a question re Xenon base] [B7L] Re: First Contact Re: [B7L] Belle and Sebastian Re: [B7L] First Contact Re: [B7L] Re: 1-word Titles & so forth Re: [B7L] First Contact Re: [B7L] First Impressions: "Orac" [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V00 #140 [B7L] Blake's log entries [B7L] Genzine lists, part 2 of 5-- LONG Re: [B7L] "Avon, come over here... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 20:33:06 +0100 From: "Ariana" To: "b7" , "Judith Proctor" Subject: [B7L] First Impressions: "Orac" Message-ID: <01e201bfc35b$9bbc1c60$40e107c3@ariana> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Last review for the moment, I'm afraid, since the BBC are stopping their repeats. Still, that will give me back three hours of my weekends. :) I have to say I liked "Orac" very much. True, it did have some problems. As Richard Callaghan said on the B7 list, the beginning was basically "Avon, come over here and I'll tell you something you already know". Why Blake would ever feel compelled to play Avon his log entries beats me. The end was equally weak, with Blake and Travis managing to avoid killing each other for the flimsiest possible reasons. I only liked that bit because it gives me canon evidence to justify similar silliness in a fanfic I'm writing. ;) Aside from that, I did like the continuity from the previous episode, with all those who had been to Cephlon suffering from radiation sickness. It gave an added urgency to Blake and Cally's quest on Aristo. I also enjoyed Ensor pottering around his little home, and Travis and Servalan having a difficult time in the caves. It wasn't perfect, but I enjoyed it a lot. Character stuff: ================ Not a tremendous deal of character stuff to comment on. Nice bit of squabbling when Jenna and Gan join Avon in the teleport room; I think Avon was rather hoping to suffer on his own. Their different reactions to the illness were interesting -- with Avon and Vila wanting privacy (though possibly for different reasons), while Jenna and Gan seemed more keen on company. It was nice to see Cally and Blake making an efficient team again, too. Vila doesn't get much to do in this episode, but he does get the best laughs; first when he bangs his head on the door as he leaves the recreation room (or whatever it is), and then when he's teleported down into a puddle with only one boot on. Plus he gets to wear a rather nice red shirt while he's relaxing. ;) Servalan being so shaken by the phibian's attack was a nice touch, IMHO. After showing what a heartless cow she can be in the comfort of her own office last time, here we see that she isn't always so assured when in the field. I think it adds a teensy bit of variety and interest to the character. Travis too is beginning to grow on me; Stephen Greif is a good actor. Pity he got replaced by the later-to-be Ted Hills from EastEnders. I liked Ensor; he was a nice grumpy old man. I thought the actor did a lot better than his 'son' in last week's episode (but then that wasn't difficult). Orac sounds like quite a character, btw. I hope I get an opportunity to see more of it in the rest of the series some day. Nitpicks and Preposterous Props: ================================ The man in a lizard suit. OK, so the suit was shiny and pretty, but that's not a great consolation. All those maps of the underground city made me laugh; a bit simple and not very descriptive. Orac's key has the flimsiest connection to his main unit. Way too easy to disconnect; I wonder if that was ever a plot point in any future episodes. Talking about those notoriously flimsy props; notice how the little table in the alcove wobbles when Avon and Blake go to listen to Blake's log entry? Paul Darrow seemed rather hesitant to sit down, too. Maybe he was afraid the chair would prove equally untrustworthy. Further to my previous comments about the use of film and video in the same episode, this one actually has two halves of the same scene using the different media. When Blake and Travis meet in the corridor, one of them is on film, and the other on video. Cally's reaction when Orac set off that explosion in front of them also amused me. I suspect that the "eep!" and hasty retreat were actually Jan Chappel's reactions to the special effect. Dialogue Gems: ============== BLAKE: Avon, I want you to listen to this. [Blake and Avon move to a small table and chairs in an alcove.] AVON: What is it? [[BLAKE: Something you already know...]] ====== VILA: So they'll be on their way to pick up Orac as fast as they can go, and that's fairly fast actually. BLAKE: Yeah, not as fast as us. AVON: Ever the optimist. ====== BLAKE: Our only hope is if they have a supply on Aristo. VILA: But if they don't? BLAKE: They will have. VILA: But if they don't? BLAKE: They will have. AVON: There's no point in hiding it, our condition will deteriorate rapidly. If we don't get drug treatment very soon, we shall die. VILA: Die? I can't do that. AVON: I'm afraid you can. It's the one talent we all share, even you. ====== AVON: Not you as well. What are you doing down there? GAN: I don't like being on my own. Especially if I'm about to die. JENNA: That's cheerful. GAN: Sorry. AVON: Is Vila on his way as well? GAN: No, he's doing his best to convince himself that he feels fine. Says we'll just remind him that he doesn't. AVON: Sometimes he shows distinct signs of intelligence. Why don't you return to your quarters? I'll let you know the moment I hear anything. JENNA: I'll stay. I think it's better if there are two of us standing by. GAN: Better still if there are three of us. AVON: Better still if you... [He stops abruptly. They look at each other and then all settle down to continue waiting.] [[Avon demonstrating that he'd rather die alone and silent]] ====== BLAKE: I thought you started without me. [He steps in.] CALLY: So did I. [The door closes.] I said that thing was versatile. BLAKE: Maybe we should try and capture it. Perhaps Avon would like it as a pet. ====== AVON: Vila. [Scene: The scene switches to Vila in a cabin, reclining in a chair.] VILA: What is it? AVON: [On communicator] How do you feel? VILA: You woke me up to ask me how I feel? AVON: [On communicator] Can you walk? VILA: Why should I want to? AVON: [On communicator] Meet me in the teleport area in your surface clothes, and hurry. VILA: [Opens the cabin door and bangs his head] Ohhh! ====== VILA: [Entering, in surface gear.] Where is he? JENNA: We don't know. VILA: He woke me up. GAN: Blake woke you up? VILA: Avon. AVON: Vila. VILA: What are you up to now? AVON: You and I are going down to the surface. [He thrusts a gun at him.] Put that on. VILA: Are you out of your mind -- I'm finding it hard enough just to stay on my feet. AVON: Then crawl, but put that on! ====== TRAVIS: [with his gun-arm raised] Goodbye, Blake. SERVALAN: Wait. [[WHY?!?]] ====== [Avon shoots Travis' gun-arm] BLAKE: Good shot, Avon. AVON: I was aiming for his head. ====== BLAKE: Why not? Vila, switch to automatics. [Blake, Avon and Vila head for the couches where the rest of the crew are seated around Orac.] Oh, Activator. [He hands it to Avon who inserts it into Orac. The computer hums.] JENNA: Well, for a hundred million credits you'd expect something a little more spectacular than that. VILA: Try kicking it. GAN: Are you sure it's fully switched on? [[The Liberator crew demonstrating that they're as clueless as any average user with a new computer...]] ====== BLAKE: It's exactly as though Ensor were speaking. ORAC: Surely it is obvious even to the meanest intelligence that during my development I would naturally become endowed with aspects of my creator's personality. AVON: The more endearing aspects by the sound of it. ORAC: Possibly. However similarities between myself and Ensor are entirely superficial. My mental capacity is infinitely greater. JENNA: Modest, isn't he? ORAC: Modesty would be dishonesty. VILA: What's wrong with being dishonest? ORAC: Is that a question? VILA: Yes. ORAC: The question is futile. Were I to say that I am incapable of dishonesty how would you know if I was being dishonest or not? BLAKE: A question for a question. Well, you're capable of evasion, anyway. VILA: I think I've heard enough. I don't like him. Orac, be a good junk heap -- shut up. ====== VILA: I don't believe it. JENNA: Zen, system status. ZEN: All systems are functioning normally. VILA: Yes, but Zen's only a machine. AVON: So is Orac. [He removes the activator and throws it across the flight deck.] VILA: That's all right, that's fixed Orac. BLAKE: No, it hasn't. JENNA: What do you mean? BLAKE: We've forgotten something. The prediction has still been made. JENNA: Blake! [the on-screen ship explodes] [[Images of a future we'll presumably see if the BBC resume their broadcasts...]] Miscellaneous: ============== As I said in my introduction, this is the last of my weekly reviews. Thank you to all those of you who let me know how much they were enjoying my comments. I will be updating the Web page at http://www.alpha.ndirect.co.uk/blakes7 shortly. And who knows, I might continue the reviews if and when the Beeb start showing B7 again... Comments and discussion welcome as usual! Ariana ====== "Die? I can't do that." "I'm afraid you can. It's the one talent we all share, even you." -- Vila and Avon in "Orac" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 15:38:42 EDT From: B7Morrigan@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] First Impressions: "Orac" Message-ID: <9e.4befcff.26599542@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ariana wrote: > As I said in my introduction, this is the last of my weekly reviews. Thank > you to all those of you who let me know how much they were enjoying my > comments. I will be updating the Web page at > http://www.alpha.ndirect.co.uk/blakes7 shortly. And who knows, I might > continue the reviews if and when the Beeb start showing B7 again... > Please, someone lend her the tapes! I've quite enjoyed these reviews, reminding me of the first time I saw the episodes and was still piecing together the puzzle of where the series was heading. Trish SCHOOL "Auron may be different, Cally, but on Earth it is considered ill-mannered to kill your friends while committing suicide." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 13:58:15 -0700 From: "Gert van den Heuvel" To: "b7" , "Judith Proctor" , "Ariana" Subject: Re: [B7L] First Impressions: "Orac" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, 21 May 2000 20:33:06 Ariana wrote: >Last review for the moment, I'm afraid, since the BBC are stopping their >repeats. Still, that will give me back three hours of my weekends. :) > >I have to say I liked "Orac" very much. > >True, it did have some problems. As Richard Callaghan said on the B7 list, >the beginning was basically "Avon, come over here and I'll tell you >something you already know". May I suggest that Terry Nation must have had some kind of feeling that some day the BBC would be so stupid to let us have to wait for two weeks between the previous episode and *Orac*? ;-) I suppose this *I'll tell you something you already know*-scene was meant as a reminder. Problably Paul Darrow was so reluctant to sit down because he thought the whole scene was an insult... So now the repeats are discontinued, is there anyone out there, who is or has been working at the BBC and has access to the original Blakes 7 tapes? Could she or he convince the people who own the rights to produce a DVD-box with all episodes? VHS is almost obsolete now, and DVD would offer the possiblity of *the making of B7*, interviews with the actors and so on... Any chance? Gert HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 14:25:16 -0700 From: Nick Moffitt To: b7 Subject: Re: [B7L] First Impressions: "Orac" Message-ID: <20000521142516.E9925@zork.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii begin Ariana quotation: > True, it did have some problems. As Richard Callaghan said on the B7 > list, the beginning was basically "Avon, come over here and I'll > tell you something you already know". Why Blake would ever feel > compelled to play Avon his log entries beats me. Dude, Blake's log entries had the best production values of that entire episode! Blake was probably proud of his little bit of cinematography. He probably wanted to have Avon nominate it for Sundance! > The end was equally weak, with Blake and Travis managing to avoid > killing each other for the flimsiest possible reasons. I only liked > that bit because it gives me canon evidence to justify similar > silliness in a fanfic I'm writing. ;) The running gag is that Blake knows Travis well. He knows the man's tactics. He realizes that as soon as Travis is off the case, they'll send in someone talented rather than someone suicidal, and then everyone loses. > Character stuff: ================ Not a tremendous deal of character > stuff to comment on. Nice bit of squabbling when Jenna and Gan join > Avon in the teleport room; I think Avon was rather hoping to suffer > on his own. Their different reactions to the illness were > interesting -- with Avon and Vila wanting privacy (though possibly > for different reasons), while Jenna and Gan seemed more keen on > company. It was nice to see Cally and Blake making an efficient team > again, too. I'm amazed there's still any controversy on this subject. Avon wanted privacy because he's an ANDROID. He wanted to hide the fact that he was in fact the Android that once ruled over Cephlon. The reason Megat saw him as the fulfillment of her prophecy is that he had told it to her ancestors and had left little polaroids from which they could identify him. The brood ship he launched actually went to the next galaxy over, and populated a world that then prepared to attack Star One. > I liked Ensor; he was a nice grumpy old man. I thought the actor did > a lot better than his 'son' in last week's episode (but then that > wasn't difficult). Orac sounds like quite a character, btw. I hope I > get an opportunity to see more of it in the rest of the series some > day. See, I really hoped that Tuddenham would play Ensor. > Orac's key has the flimsiest connection to his main unit. Way too > easy to disconnect; I wonder if that was ever a plot point in any > future episodes. Actually, the inability to remove it has been a plot point. I believe that later on it becomes a clear plastic blade that inserts into him. Also, later on you realize that Orac still functions without the key, but doesn't communicate with those standing next to it. What bothered me about this episode is that they are determined that Aristo will have sophisticated anti-radiation treatments, though they already know that it lacks simple batteries for an old mechanical heart (and they had 40 years to pop down to the corner store and pick some up). -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks LinuxCabal.Org - Co-location facilities and meeting space Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 17:25:35 -0400 From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" Subject: Teeth [was Re: [B7L] a question re Xenon base] Message-ID: <200005211725_MC2-A5C8-1E4C@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Carol wrote: >We refuse to divulge any information >about the secret teeth intiation rite, >except to assure everyone that sunglasses >are provided to prevent damage to the eyes. Feeling I ought to say something very witty at this juncture about how Martin Amis would fare with the Tarrant Nostra, but as usual my brain refuses to rise to the occasion. Harriet ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 17:26:00 -0400 From: Harriet Monkhouse <101637.2064@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:blakes7@lysator.liu.se" Subject: [B7L] Re: First Contact Message-ID: <200005211726_MC2-A5C8-1E54@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jason wrote: >just having a one word title really got me >interested to. After years of Dr Who titles >along the lines of "Thingie of the > Thingamuagumie Doodad" here was a single word! Yes, yes, yes! I like that too. And it was the first thing that worried me about the BBC Radio plays - I took one look and thought "But those sound like Dr Who titles." And I do like Earthshock, as an episode and as a title. I think I'd disqualify proper names, especially alien ones, in the single-word title contest, though, as they don't have the same sort of impact. Harriet ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 08:56:29 EST From: "J MacQueen" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Cc: Judith@blakes-7.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: [B7L] Belle and Sebastian Message-ID: <20000521225629.14225.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: Judith Proctor >2 May (probably) - Gareth Thomas did recording work on a video single >'Legal >Man' for the band Belle and Sebastian I am very glad to see that they thought well of him ("consumate professional" and so forth). I shall have to look out for it. Regards Joanne ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 08:59:16 EST From: "J MacQueen" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] First Contact Message-ID: <20000521225916.31975.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: Nick Moffitt > Every whovian on Earth realizes that Timelash is the worst >episode of Dr. Who ever made. Is that so? Regards Joanne (just strange enough to like it a lot) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 09:06:07 EST From: "J MacQueen" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Re: 1-word Titles & so forth Message-ID: <20000521230607.40544.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: Nick Moffitt >He seemed to be playing the Brutus It was meant to be Laurence Olivier playing Richard III. Given the character, it was more like Laurence Olivier changing his mind and playing, say, Hastings as Richard III. Nothing like a flamboyant minor villain to keep your attention away from the real villain, who was hiding behind "Docholli", so to speak Regards Joanne ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 16:09:52 -0700 From: Nick Moffitt To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] First Contact Message-ID: <20000521160952.F9925@zork.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii begin J MacQueen quotation: > >From: Nick Moffitt > > Every whovian on Earth realizes that Timelash is the worst > >episode of Dr. Who ever made. > > Is that so? > > Regards > Joanne > (just strange enough to like it a lot) Ergo, you must not be on Earth. -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks LinuxCabal.Org - Co-location facilities and meeting space Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 17:52:54 PDT From: "Sally Manton" To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] First Impressions: "Orac" Message-ID: <20000522005254.30822.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Nick wrote: Nononono ... as far as I can recall, this was the first and last time Blake made a log entry at all, wasn't it? Knowing My Hero, he probably *hated* the job ("Flight log entry eight-three-five. Time co-ordinate six-six-oh, whatever. Liberator is travelling en route to a pre-loved computer fair on Aristopia Minor, as our so-called expert still has not got the food-processing units to generate anything but psychedelic protein mush, or the cabin controls to run a bath without bubbles that smell like sugared violets mixed with sump oil, and he says he needs more new circuitry than you'd find in all of Space Command to produce a decent cup of coffee or a straightforward answer from Zen. Trip has been totally uneventful except for said expert's sniping, which is *not* memorable enough to be catalogued for history whatever he thinks, Jenna finding out that Vila has cracked the lock on her cabin, and Vila getting stuck in the ventilation duct he hid in. Tonight, Zen will read aloud to us, from the rather uninspiring catalogue of bookfiles the previous owners installed, a treatise on the correct procedure for integrating non-utilitarian organic units into a omni-functional interplanetary operational system - or maybe something called Jabberwocky. Oh, and Cally was taken over by aliens this morning, but they found they were in the wrong galaxy and left before breakfast. And the leader of the Liberator frankly doesn't blame them.") Maybe Jenna - as the only experienced space traveller - told him that it was part of the (self-proclaimed) captain's duties, and he's insisting that Avon watch them simply because he thinks *someone* ought to have to suffer along with him ... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 17:08:05 -0700 From: Helen Krummenacker To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: blakes7-d Digest V00 #140 Message-ID: <3928785A.7E8A@jps.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hmm... Paul appeared in a 1 title episode, the entirety of which I > seem > > to have forgotten, so it either wasn't that bad or good, or was one > I > > missed due to being at college. > > Paul played Hawkins in The Silurians and Tekker in Timelash. Forgive > me, > I'm new to this list and I'm afraid I don't know what you mean by > 'title episode'. > > Which one do you mean? > > Laila > Sorry, I meant 1-word title epsiode, I left out the 'word'. I KNOW he was in Timelash. I know about Timelash. Talking to me about isn't restoring a trace of my memory. I have a vague notion of somewhat toga-like costumes, but that might come from imagining from a description. I either didn't see it, but read enough about it to know the general stuff (name of villian, etc.) Or I saw it and promptly forgot all details. That's all I was trying to say. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 20:59:31 EDT From: B7Morrigan@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Blake's log entries Message-ID: <8e.55a75cc.2659e073@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This sounds like an excellent topic for a fanfic writer to pursue: ("Flight log entry > eight-three-five. Time co-ordinate six-six-oh, whatever. Liberator is > travelling en route to a pre-loved computer fair on Aristopia Minor, as our > so-called expert still has not got the food-processing units to generate > anything but psychedelic protein mush, or the cabin controls to run a bath > without bubbles that smell like sugared violets mixed with sump oil, and he > says he needs more new circuitry than you'd find in all of Space Command to > produce a decent cup of coffee or a straightforward answer from Zen. Trip > has been totally uneventful except for said expert's sniping, which is *not* > memorable enough to be catalogued for history whatever he thinks, Jenna > finding out that Vila has cracked the lock on her cabin, and Vila getting > stuck in the ventilation duct he hid in. Tonight, Zen will read aloud to us, > from the rather uninspiring catalogue of bookfiles the previous owners > installed, a treatise on the correct procedure for integrating > non-utilitarian organic units into a omni-functional interplanetary > operational system - or maybe something called Jabberwocky. Oh, and Cally > was taken over by aliens this morning, but they found they were in the wrong > galaxy and left before breakfast. And the leader of the Liberator frankly > doesn't blame them.") > > Anyone up for the challenge? Trish SCHOOL "Auron may be different, Cally, but on Earth it is considered ill-mannered to kill your friends while committing suicide." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 18:29:56 -0700 From: "Sarah Thompson" To: Cc: Subject: [B7L] Genzine lists, part 2 of 5-- LONG Message-ID: <009301bfc394$375d49e0$29adcdcf@y1i7s9> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit B7 ZINE LIST A ALL-B7 GEN FICTION AND POETRY ZINES Part 2 of 3 [Eggplant Extrapolated planned but never published; US, 1988] ELEVENTH SECTOR #1 (fiction zine of Star One club; US, 1988) ELEVENTH SECTOR #2 (US, 1988) ENARRARRE (special B7 issue of mm zine; AU, 1989) ENDGAME (story by Peggy Hartsook; Blake's Seven Re-Release series; reprint from POWER #1; US, 1997) THE EPIC (novel by Anonymous [=Catherine Knowles]; also published as DEFECTS OF LONELINESS; UK, 1980) EPISODES (assorted stories by Judith Seaman; UK, 1988) [The Estradian Recruitment (Anne Lewis) see LIBERATOR #8] EVOLUTION (novel by Madonna Skaff; ST and STTNG crossover; CN, 1990) FAITH, HOPE, AND CHARITY (story by Judith Seaman; UK, 1993) FATE'S FINAL ACT (novella by Linda Knights; Blake's Seven Re-Release series; revised reprint from SOUTHERN SEVEN #5; US, 1997) FEAR (novel by Tom Beck; US, 1989) FIFTH SEASON #1 (US, 1982.7) FIFTH SEASON #2 (US, 1983.5) FIFTH SEASON #3 (US, 1984.5) FIFTH SEASON #4 (US, 1986) FIFTH SEASON #5 (US, 1988) FIFTH SEASON #6 (US, 1990) FIGHTBACK #1-2 (novel by Margaret Scroggs; part 1 of 6; UK, 1986) FIGUREHEAD (story by Leigh Arnold; New Horizons series, part 3; US) THE FINAL TAKE-- TAKE THREE (stories from an Avon Club competition; UK, 1993) FLAKE'S SEVEN (parody stories by Leigh Arnold; humor; combined reprint of #s 1 & 2; US) FLAKE'S SEVEN #1 (aka 'Stag' Nation's Flake's Seven Annual 1982; parody stories by Leigh Arnold; humor; US, 1982) FLAKE'S SEVEN #2 (aka 'Stag' Nation's Flake's Seven Annual 1983; parody stories by Leigh Arnold; humor; US, 1983) FLIGHT INTO SLAVERY (novella by Brenda Callagher; Battlestar Galactica crossover; UK, 1982) [The Flotsam Chronicles (P. Milby & V. Dickinson) see BLAKE'S DOUBLES #1] FOREVER LIVE AND DIE (novella by Shawn Wigton, part 1 of ?; US, 1989) FORGOTTEN SEVEN (US, 1990?) FRAGMENTS FROM A SHATTERED LIFE (novel by Cath Knowles; UK, 1990.8) FRAME-UP (novella by Margaret Scroggs; sequel to BLOODLINE; part 5 of 6; UK, 1989) Freedom Party Services novelettes (stories based on episodes) #1, HEADHUNTER (Kevin Taylor) #2, REDEMPTION (David Metcalfe; UK, 1985) #3, SAND (Dominic Anderson) #4, STRUGGLE TO LIVE (Kevin Taylor; based on Aftermath; UK, 1985) #5, MISSION TO DESTINY (Henry Eggleton; UK, 1986.4) #6, STARDRIVE (Patrick Chapman; UK, 1986) #7, WARLORD (David Metcalfe; UK, 1986.8) #8, PRESSURE POINT (Robert Franks) #9, SARCOPHAGUS (Dominic Anderson) #10, TO LOSE, TO WIN (Patrick Chapman; combines Terminal and Rescue; UK, 1987) #11, DUEL (Robert Cook; UK, 1987) #12, TIMESQUAD (Gavin Collinson; UK, 1987) #13, THE WEB (Daniel Denman; UK, 1987) #14, ULTRAWORLD (Kenneth Nelson; UK, 1987) #15, POWER (Dominic Anderson; UK, 1987) #16, CITY AT THE EDGE OF THE WORLD (Garry Cullen; UK, 1987) #18, SEEK-LOCATE-DESTROY (Garry Cullen) #23, TRAITOR (Simon Gardener; UK, 1988) #24, RUMOURS OF DEATH (Stephanie Lucas; UK, 1988) #25, THE WAY BACK (Patrick Chapman; UK, 1988) MOLOCH (Susan Glasgow) CYGNUS ALPHA (Gavin Collinson) ASSASSIN (Kevin Taylor) GAMBIT (Carol Wyke) COUNTDOWN (Henry Eggleton) PROJECT AVALON (Robert Jepson) SPACE FALL (Fran Ward?) [From the Log of the Hellhound see under Hellhound] Frontier Worlds Special Publications (stories based on episodes) BLAKE (Peter Anghelides; partly reprinted from FRONTIER WORLDS 13 & 14; UK, 1985) SHADOW (David Tulley; UK, 1986) [Full Circle (Penny Kjelgaard) see AVON #17] [Gambit (Carol Wyke) see under Freedom Party Services novelettes] GAMBIT #1 (AU, 1981.9) GAMBIT #2 (AU, 1982.3) GAMBIT #3: Jared's Daughter (novel by Yvonne Hintz; AU, 1982.9) GAMBIT #1 (US, 1987.10) GAMBIT #2 (US, 1988.4) GAMBIT #3 (US, 1988.10) GAMBIT #4 (US, 1989.5) GAMBIT #5 (US, 1989.12) GAMBIT #6 (US, 1990.8) GAMBIT #7 (US, 1991.6) GAMBIT #8 (US, 1992.2) GAMBIT #9 (US, 1992.10) GAMBIT #10 (US, 1993.6) GAMBIT #11 (US, 1994.3) GAMBIT #12 (US, 1994.11) GAMBIT #13 (US, 1995.8) GAMBIT #14 (US, 1996.11) [Game Plan (Gillian Puddle) see AVON #16] GAME, SET, AND MATCH (trilogy by Kathy Hintze; US, 1988?) GHOST #1-5 (series of stories by Judith Seaman; sequel to PROGRAM; two more parts projected; UK, 1986-1990) [Ghyste Mortua planned but never published; US, 1988] THE GILBERT AND SERVALAN SONGBOOK (G & S filks by Chris Blenkarn; UK, 1998) GOING HOME (play by James Ide; sequel to UNDERCURRENTS; stage adaptation of Quest, part 3 of 3; US, 1992) G.R.O.T. #1 (all Tarrant humor; UK, 1985) [Half-Life (Jamie Ritchey & Dee Beetem) see BLAKE'S DOUBLES #2] THE HAUNTING OF HADERON (novella by Lillian Shepherd, reprinted with slight revisions from LIBERATOR #5; UK, 1982.8; later reprinted in STAR THREE) [Headhunter (Kevin Taylor) see Freedom Party Services novellette #1] HEART OF STONE (story by Viv Glover; UK, 1990) HELLHOUND, FROM THE LOG OF THE, BOOK I (series of stories by Katrina Snyder and Susanne McGhin; reprinted from first edition of SOUTHERN SEVEN #1, plus one extra story; US, 1988) HELLHOUND, FROM THE LOG OF THE, BOOK II (series of stories by Katrina Snyder and Susanne McGhin; reprinted from first edition of SOUTHERN SEVEN #2; US, 1988) [Hellhound Book III (Katrina Snyder and Susanne McGhin) included in SOUTHERN SEVEN #3] [The Log of the Hellhound-- Book IV (Katrina Larkin and Susanne Tilley) see BLAKE'S DOUBLES #2] [Hellhound Book V (Katrina Larkin and Susanne Tilley) included in SOUTHERN SEVEN #5] [Hellhound Book VI (Katrina Larkin and Susanne Tilley) included in SOUTHERN SEVEN #7] [Hellhound Book VII (Katrina Larkin and Susanne Tilley) see BLAKE'S DOUBLES #4] HELLHOUND, FROM THE LOG OF THE, BOOK VIII (series of stories by Katrina Larkin and Susanne Tilley; US, 1993) [Hellhound Book IX (Katrina Larkin and Susanne Katz) included in SOUTHERN SEVEN #12] [Helltide see THE PRICE OF JUSTICE] HERO (story by Judith Seaman; sequel to SCORPION; UK) HIP-DEEP IN HEROES (filks; US, 1989.2) HORIZON #1 (fiction zine of Horizon club; UK, 1980) HORIZON #1 + 8 (combined reprint of two issues; UK, 1990) HORIZON #2 (UK, 1981) HORIZON #3 (UK, 1982) HORIZON #4 (UK, 1982) HORIZON #5 (UK, 1983) HORIZON #6 (UK, 1984.7) HORIZON #7 (UK, 1985) HORIZON #8 (UK, 1986.3) HORIZON #9 (UK, 1986) HORIZON #10 (UK, 1987) HORIZON #11 (UK, 1988.1) HORIZON #12 (UK, 1988.10) HORIZON #13 (UK, 1989.6) HORIZON #14 (UK, 1990.3) HORIZON #15 (UK, 1991.8) HORIZON #16 (UK, 1992.4) HORIZON #17 (UK, 1992.11) HORIZON #18 (UK, 1994.10) HORIZON #19 (UK, 1995.8) HORIZON #20 (UK, 1996.10) HORIZON #21 (UK, 1998.3) HORIZON NEWSLETTER #1-39 ongoing (some issues include short fiction; UK, 1980-) [The Human Factor (Freda Hyatt) see AVON #11] III 3 (UK, 1983) IMIPAC (Avon, Vila, Zen and Orac Appreciation Society) NEWSLETTER #1-5 (UK, 1981-1983; includes fiction) [Inheritance (Yvette Clarke) see INTERFACE #4] INPUT #1 (CN, 1988.2) INPUT #2 (CN, 1989.3) INPUT #3 (CN, 1989.12) INPUT #4 (CN, 1990.11) INTERFACE #1 (fiction zine of Vilaworld club; UK, 1982.6) INTERFACE #2 (UK, 1982.12) INTERFACE #3 (UK, 1983.4) INTERFACE #4: Inheritance (Yvette Clarke; UK, 1983.8) INTERFACE #5 (UK, 1984.1) INTERFACE #6 (UK, 1984.1) INTERFACE #7 (UK, 1984.9) INTERFACE #8 (UK, 1984.9) INTERFACE #9 (UK, 1985.3) INTERFACE #10 (UK, 1986.3) INTERFACE #11 (UK, 1987.9) INTERFACE #12 (UK, 1989.4) INTERSECTION (novella by Janet Ellicott and Penny Hill; B7/Space:1999 crossover; UK, 1980?) INVERTED BLAKE #1 (US, 1989.7) INVERTED BLAKE #2 (US, 1990.8) ISLANDS (novella by Roberta Stuemke; Sundowner trilogy, part 1; US, 1989) [Jabberwocky 1: Link-up (novel by Sheila Paulson) see SEVENTH SECTOR #3] JABBERWOCKY, Vol. 1 (Parts 1-4; series of stories by Sheila Paulson; edited reprint from JABBERWOCKY COLLECTED; UK, 1996) JABBERWOCKY, Vol. 2 (Parts 5-8; series of stories by Sheila Paulson; edited reprint from JABBERWOCKY COLLECTED; UK, 1997) JABBERWOCKY, Vol. 3 (Parts 9-13; series of stories by Sheila Paulson; edited reprint from JABBERWOCKY COLLECTED; UK, 1997) [Jabberwocky, Vol. 4 see JABBERWOCKY UN-COLLECTED] JABBERWOCKY COLLECTED (series of stories by Sheila Paulson; reprinted from various zines; US, 1993) JABBERWOCKY: THE STORY CONTINUES (Part 2: Mindrape; Part 3: Healer; novellas by Sheila Paulson; US, 1987.3; reprinted in JABBERWOCKY COLLECTED and JABBERWOCKY, Vol. 1) JABBERWOCKY UN-COLLECTED (Story 14: Malodaar; novella by Sheila Paulson; US, 1995; second edition: JABBERWOCKY, Vol. 4; UK, 1997) [Jared's Daughter (Yvonne Hintz) see GAMBIT #3 (AU)] [Journey (James Ide, part 2 of 3) planned but never published?; US] JOURNEY TO B-HIVE-6 (A Bear's 7 Adventure; story by K. Rae Travers and Sophia R. Mulvey; teddy bear AU, humor; US, 1987) [Key (Marie Logan & Jenny Hayward) see CHRONICLES #56/57/58] [The Killing Grounds (Suzan Lovett) planned but never published? US, 1988] KISS OF DEATH (UK, 1982) KLYN'S SEVEN (US, 1989) THE LAST, BEST HOPE (novel by Melody Clark; US, 1988; revised second edition: UK, 1996) LAST STAND AT THE EDGE OF THE WORLD (novel by Ann Wortham & Leah Rosenthal; US, 1989?) A LEDGE BETWEEN THE STREAMS (novella by Judith Seaman; UK, 1993) LES IMBECILES (script, with filks, by Carrie Hagen; Les Miserables parody; US, 1986) [Liberating Scorpio planned but never published?; CN, 1992] LIBERATION #1-3 (aka B7 Liberation; series of stories by Jean Hubb; US, 1990-91) LIBERATOR #1 (first fiction zine of Liberator Popular Front club; UK, 1978) LIBERATOR #2 (UK, 1978) LIBERATOR #3 (UK, 1978.11) LIBERATOR #4 (UK, 1978?) LIBERATOR #5: The Haunting of Haderon (novella by Lillian Shepherd; UK, 1979; later reprinted as a standalone, THE HAUNTING OF HADERON, and still later in STAR THREE) LIBERATOR #6 (UK, 1979) LIBERATOR #7 (first edition: UK, 1979.8; second edition, with slightly different contents: UK, 1981.1) LIBERATOR #8: The Estradian Recruitment (novella by Anne Lewis; UK, 1980.1) LIBERATOR #9 (UK, 1980) LIBERATOR #10: The Price of Justice (novella by Ermentrude Postlethwaite-Smythe; UK, 1980.10; later reprinted as a standalone, THE PRICE OF JUSTICE) LIBERATOR POPULAR FRONT NEWSLETTER #1-24 (includes short fiction; UK) LIMITATIONS (novella by Anon, Idem, Kathryn Andersen, Jean Graham, Michelle Moyer, Judith Proctor, David Sanderson, and Susan Beth Schnitger; UK, 1996.4) LINKS, or, What Do You Do after You Come Back from the Dead? (novella by Jonathan Waite; sequel to "Nyrond" in FRAK #2 & "Powers of Life & Death" in FRAK #4; UK) LIVE TO TELL (novella by Shawn Wigton; sequel to FOREVER LIVE AND DIE; part 2 of ?; US, 1990) LODESTAR #1 (AU, 1985?) LODESTAR #2 (AU, 1985.4) LODESTAR #3 (AU, 1985.9) LODESTAR #4 (AU, 1985.12) LODESTAR #5 (AU, 1986?) LODESTAR OMNI (reprint of stories by Gail Neville from #s 1- 3; AU, 1986?) [The Log of the Hellhound see under Hellhound] LONE STAR (novel by Leigh Arnold; US, 1986) THE MACHIAVELLI FACTOR (novel by Lillian Shepherd; UK, 1982.6; second edition: UK, 1996) MAGNIFICENT SEVEN #1 (US, 1983?) MAGNIFICENT SEVEN #2 (US, 1984.7) MAGNIFICENT SEVEN #3 (US, 1986.7; reprint omits some stories) MAGNIFICENT SEVEN #4 (US, 1987.8; reprint omits some stories) MAGNIFICENT SEVEN #5 (US, 1988.2) MAGNIFICENT SEVEN #6 (US, 1988.2) MAGNIFICENT SEVEN #7 (US, 1988.11) MAGNIFICENT SEVEN #8 (US, 1989.12) MAGNIFICENT SEVEN #9 (US, 1991.3) MAN OF IRON (script by Paul Darrow) MASCARADA (novel by Susan Matthews, plus an extra story; sequel to THE MIND OF MAN...; part 2 of 3; US, 1985) MATTE SHOT (Oriole Alma Throckmorton; Star Wars crossover; UK) [A Matter of Time (Anna Richmond) see AVON #6] THE MENDARIS CONNECTION #1-2 (novel by Margaret Martin; UK, 1991.5) [Mercy's Bounty (Donna Chlouber) see AVON #12] [Metamorphosis (Sheila Paulson) see BLAKE'S DOUBLES #3] MILLENIUM SPECIAL (reprint of novella and story by Gillian Marsden, THE CHAMELEONS [UK, 1985] and Deadly Night Shades [UK, 1983]; UK, 1999) THE MIND OF MAN IS A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD (novel by Susan Matthews; part 1 of 3; US, 1983.9) MIRAGE (series of stories by Jean Graham; US) [Mission to Destiny (Henry Eggleton) see Freedom Party Services novelette #5] [Moloch (Susan Glasgow) see under Freedom Party Services novelettes] MORGAN (novel by Judith Proctor; Morgan's Boy crossover; UK, 1998.3) [Motley Crew included in MAGNIFICENT SEVEN #9] THE MOULD (novella by Janet Ellicott; UK) [Mutoids Own planned but never published?; UK, 1984] NECESSITIES (novel by Susan Rotellini; part 2 of 3; US, 1989.10) [Nemesis (Carol Wyke) see AVON #2] NETWORK (assorted stories by Candra Daneson; US, 1993.5) A NEW BEGINNING (story by Francesca Ward; UK, 1982.4) [New Horizons, Part 1 (Leigh Arnold) see SURVIVOR] [New Horizons, Part 2 (Leigh Arnold) see REVELATIONS] [New Horizons, Part 3 (Leigh Arnold) see FIGUREHEAD] NEW HORIZONS, Parts 1-3 (series of stories by Leigh Arnold; combined reprint of SURVIVOR, REVELATIONS, and FIGUREHEAD; US) NEW HORIZONS, Parts 4-6 (series of stories by Leigh Arnold; US, 1986.7) NEW HORIZONS, Parts 7-9 (series of stories by Leigh Arnold; US, 1987.4) NEW HORIZONS, Parts 10-12 (series of stories by Leigh Arnold; US, 1988.3) [New Horizons, Part 13 included in MAGNIFICENT SEVEN #9] NO ALTERNATIVE (novella by Glen David; Star Trek crossover; UK, 1992) NOVA (novel by Judith Proctor; UK, 1994) ONE OF THE LESSER HAWKS (novella by Judith Seaman; UK, 1994) ORAC (published by the Seveners; UK) ORAC 90 ORACLE #1-18 (newsletter with short fiction; UK, 1984-1989) ORAC'S MESSAGE/A KNIGHTLY MEMORY (two stories by Julie Talbott; 1992) ORBIT #1 (second fiction zine of Liberator Popular Front; UK, 1982.10) ORBIT #2 (UK, 1983.4) ORBIT #3 (UK, 1983.9) ORBIT #4 (UK, 1984.3) ORBIT #5 (UK, 1985.1) ORBIT #6 (UK, 1985.8) ORBIT #7 (UK, 1985.10) ORBIT #8 (UK, 1986.1) ORBIT #9 (UK, 1986.6) ORBIT #10 (UK, 1987.3) ORION'S APPROACH #1 (all-B7 issue of mm zine; UK, 1984) THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN (story by Jean Airey and Ruth Berman, with Laurie Haldeman; sequel to THE TOTALLY IMAGINARY CHEESEBOARD; US, 1991; reprint: UK, 1995) [Out of the Night (Annita Smith) see BLAKE'S DOUBLES #1] OUTER WORLDS (assorted stories by Deborah Millitello; US, 1987) OUTLANDS #1 (not the same as US mm zine of same name; fiction zine of Blake's Seven Swap and Buy Club; UK, 1984) OVERLOAD (UK, 1979?) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 23:04:09 -0400 From: "Gary" To: Subject: Re: [B7L] "Avon, come over here... Message-ID: <00a801bfc39a$66e92ac0$1fbac0d1@Pgadam> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >(Orac), wasn't it? Who says Terry Nation isn't a good writer? > He was, IMHO, a good writer. Perhaps limiting him to be the Only the author for the first 13 episodes was a good thing... you see his flexibility.... >Actually, for an "end of season" episode I thought this week's was a bit off, >and the exposition problem kept coming up all the way through, including: > >The crew having their flight deck conversation conviently playing on the >intercom so Gan could hear it in the sickbay. What, couldn't we assume they'd >just TOLD him off-screen or something? Maybe he could even have been there at >the time to hear them say it? > I figured it was a bit of aside that he knew but they were 'voicing' a plot element. In other words so you (or me or anybody else) could hear what is going on.... >Worst bit though was the end. "Wait, Travis, don't kill Blake yet - allow me >to explain the plot to him first. Right, now you can kill him". And I >couldn't believe Servelan's "you're in big trouble for this, Travis". It was >her that told him to wait!!! He could have killed Blake ten times over if it >wasn't for the silly moo sticking her oar in. > Truth be told, Servelan (I believe IMO) was trying to justify her anger at being outwitted. Of course IF Travis Had killed Blake then the TV series would have a very short life span. Perhaps more akin to 'Blake' for the end of Season 1, but still.... I think she was trying to 'pass the buck' so he would get the sh** kicked out of *Him* for being a buffoon and Servelan could quietly grin and slip out the side entrance. [Exit Cheap Set Left] >Weirdest bit had to be the part where Blake and Travis first bump into each >other along a corridor - Travis' half of the corridor on film, Blake's on >video. And that lizard monster? They must have spent a fortune on that, they >could have saved money by just having a man in a cheap rubber suit to do it. > As I recall it WAS a cheap suit and Vere Lorrimer (the director) decided to use shadows and jump cuts to hide the fact it was SO awful no one would find it scary. As it was, he did a fair brill job (IMHO) of hiding what an awful costume the Phibians were. Plus the Phibs weren't the focus, and Orac Was.... In addendum: It was standard policy of the Beeb at the time to shoot location work on film and studio stuff on video tape. (Video cameras were very mucho expensive in those days and weren't light. Doctor Who did the same thing. Case in point watch 'The Pirate Planet' from the same era ('78) and you'll see that the exteriors are all on film and the interiors are videotape. Since the invention of the portable Betacam SP camera (Thanks Ikegami!) all of it is now done on video. Alas, those were the days you Had to hire a Film and a Videotape Editor :) No wonder there was never a budget for the monsters! :) > >But you know, I'll miss Blake's 7, with it's brand of state-of-the-art >sophisticated special effects and complete absense of boom mike shadows. >Sarcasm aside I'm sad that the BBC are stopping the repeats, I've only just >gotten into the series and am thinking about buying the tapes so I can see >what I'm missing in the next three seasons. A great shame they won't Please do, many of them are very worth it. 'Pressure Point', 'Star One' and 'Blake' are faves of mine and they are all 2nd, and beyond. In particular (and depressingly) 'Blake' is among my favorites because of the lovely scenery and great plotting. It also does them in... but I'll leave you to see How... I also enjoyed 'Trial', 'Terminal' and though this is moot for you, 'The Way Back' since you've seen that all ready. -Gary PS. A question for anyone out there with superior HTML knowledge - if I've >bought a domain name to divert to a site I have on Geocities, why does it >throw up script errors when it's fine when viewed under the Geocities URL? >And is there any way to fix the problem? > I think they have a problem with executing Java scripts... it happens on someone else's Geocities web site I went to (directly I might add) and it was telling me there were 'syntax errors' every time I reloaded a page... I'm guessing a server problem? Write them and kindly ask what in tarnation is going on :) -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V00 Issue #141 **************************************