From: blakes7-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: blakes7-d Digest V00 #117 X-Loop: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume00/117 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: blakes7-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain blakes7-d Digest Volume 00 : Issue 117 Today's Topics: Re: [B7L] Liberator's vaults Re: [B7L] RE: The Incredible Gan Re: [B7L] Federation Logo [B7L] Breakdown [B7L] Re: B7L--25mm B7 miniatures Re: [B7L] Breakdown [B7L] On Dayna and Evolution [B7L] First impressions: "Breakdown" Re: [B7L] On Dayna and Evolution [B7L] Enarrare' page ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 21:02:36 -0600 From: "Ellynne G." To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Liberator's vaults Message-ID: <20000422.221126.-88615.4.rilliara@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 15:25:17 PDT "Sally Manton" writes: > After I wrote: > > Patrick reminded me: > shio > carries considerable sums...."> > > True. Damn, I liked that idea...so where *did* the money go? Cally wanted to still the kairopan because the Federation needed it and she saw it as a good way to discourage slave labor on Kairos. Vila fell under the usual, addictive spell of kairopan (of course it's addictive, that's why no one can resist picking the stuff up). However, when not properly stored [i.e. out in the open getting over-ripe] it causes strange hallucinations [which have an odd, group consistancy if you throw a telepathic Auron and a telepathic rock into the mix], such as being menaced by giant, unconvincing spiders, leading to heart failure. The possibility that kairopan may have had some use to telepaths, which Cally didn't care to share (moderately embarrassing or just one of those things they wouldn't understand?), that might have also explained her backing. Of course, while Avon mentioned some of the resources to Tarrant when they met, he may have since arranged an 'accident' to explain why the stuff is 'missing.' After the war, Avon may have realized it's safer to keep some of your valuables in various, neutral banking systems away from the war zones. No reason to tell Tarrant that. Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 20:50:56 -0600 From: "Ellynne G." To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] RE: The Incredible Gan Message-ID: <20000422.221126.-88615.3.rilliara@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:28:37 PDT "Sally Manton" writes: > Richard wrote: and > Vila, get called by their Christian names?> > > Actually, we don't *know* that all females are - Servalan, Kasabi, > Avalon > and Soolin could all be surnames… Didn't we cover this a while back? Ripley Kasabie, Princess Leia Avalon, and Mary Sue Servalan. Avon's brother and lover both call > him Avon, And we won't get off on that again (sniffle). > and Sula calls her husband by his (presumed) surname Chesku. But, as she was about to end the relationship, that may have been a deliberate snub. > I think it's usually passed off as a caste thing (higher grades use > surnames), with regional variations (to explain DeathWatch) and some > > allowance for personal preference (personally, I'd prefer Blake, > Avon and > Gan to Roj, Kerr and Oleg...but Restal's quite nice.) > > The idea of Avon in the military was bad enough (shot for > insubordination within three weeks), Hmm, maybe Travis just THINKS it was Blake who caused his injuries, not the 'clumsy' trooper behind him. but *Blake...???* That's even > worse - Then again, maybe Blake was the clumsy trooper. A little difficult to manage, since Travis had set a trap for him, etc. But there may be an explanation around this. Blake never said the Freedom Party _didn't_ meet at the Space Command Shooting Range .... > > And TigerM: > > first names > (or perhaps those were their only names).> > > Again, they *could* have been surnames (one hopes not - Zeeona Zukan > is not > pretty.) Or even surname/titles like 'Caesar'. > For some reason, I'm hearing a little voice saying "Me Zukan. You Jane" Or Jenna. Or Mary Sue (Servalan). Then again, perhaps he just didn't want to advertise his real title, Skippy ("Hail, Skippy! Long live Skippy!" "Skippy, Scourge of the Spaceways!"). Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 22:22:36 -0600 From: "Ellynne G." To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Federation Logo Message-ID: <20000422.222237.-88615.6.rilliara@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 06:19:30 +1000 Kathryn Andersen writes: > On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 01:51:27PM -0400, Harriet Monkhouse wrote: > > > So, to be really obvious and hoping it doesn't annoy Pat too much, > exactly > > how were the Siskos related to Dayna? I think I prefer the > > B7-Federation-being-the-corrupted-Trek-Federation, myself, and the > > Mellanbys as descendants of Sisko and Kassidy. > > Um, were you asking me? If so, the answer was, Dayna was the > ancestress of Uhura. The epilogue in question was written well > before > any of the new-fangled Treks came on the scene. > Ah, and here I'd always thought the obvious question was about Dayna's blind, engineer father with the artificial seeing device and a certain other, blind engineer with an artificial seeing device .... Ellynne ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 10:22:56 EDT From: RCalla6725@aol.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Breakdown Message-ID: <8.400b70d.26346140@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Meant to ask - just what were the crew laughing at for the conclusion to yesterday's episode? Obviously they were supposed to be having a laugh with Gan, but unless they're really that good at acting, it seemed like they were genuinely wetting themselves at something - I felt like I was missing out on some sort of in-joke... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 13:59:49 EDT From: JEB31538@cs.com To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: [B7L] Re: B7L--25mm B7 miniatures Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Andy Spencer" wrote the following in the last digest: > I was told that Blakes 7 is rated highly at the Harlequin camp and if > interest was shown and enough request's were received they may yet produce a > range of Blakes 7 miniatures. > > Their address & telephone number is: HARLEQUIN MINIATURES LTD, UNIT S3, 632 > RADFORD ROAD, BASFORD, NOTTINGHAM, NG7 7EX. (0115 942 2265) > > If you would like to contact them via e-mail, or to see what a good job they > are making of the Dr Who figures check out their web site at: > > www.harlequin-miniatures.com > > If we want to see a Blakes 7 range of figures, it's up to us. I would love to be able to get some miniatures. I hope all of you take some time to either write, call, or Email. I went to the site and the Email is on page one at the lower left hand side. It's easy to do. However, I would strongly suggest you use you real name and add your address and Email just so you come across as an authentic person with details. I think having the documentation is necesssary. The actual Email address --if you are too lazy or busy to go to the site-- is vaughan@harlquin.demon.co.uk I hope a lot of you do the Emails--since that's the easiest thing to do. Joyce Bowen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 13:21:04 -0700 From: Nick Moffitt To: blakes7@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: [B7L] Breakdown Message-ID: <20000423132104.O30762@zork.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii begin RCalla6725@aol.com quotation: > Meant to ask - just what were the crew laughing at for the > conclusion to yesterday's episode? > > Obviously they were supposed to be having a laugh with Gan, but > unless they're really that good at acting, it seemed like they were > genuinely wetting themselves at something - I felt like I was > missing out on some sort of in-joke... C'mon, man! It was the SEVENTIES! They were too busy switching between film and video in the sickbay scenes to worry about DIRECTING! It's a classic seventies end-of-show happy music freeze-frame! I think the more important question is "What happened to the freeze-frame and the happy music?" -- CrackMonkey.Org - Non-sequitur arguments and ad-hominem personal attacks LinuxCabal.Org - Co-location facilities and meeting space Pigdog.Org - The Online Handbook for Bad People of the Future You are not entitled to your opinions. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 13:46:18 -0700 From: Pat Patera To: B7 Lysator Subject: [B7L] On Dayna and Evolution Message-ID: <3903611A.C087CBD2@netzero.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alison wrote: re Neil's: >> there are at least four recognised human >>races - Australoids, Caucasoids, Mongoloids and Negroids. >I've got to disagree with you Neil. The idea of four races is just a bit of >fiction. The populations of Africa show more genetic diversity than exists >between (say) an australian aborigine and a white european, so why lump them >all together as one 'race' and split us and the aborigines into two races? I can see how Africans, all living on one continent, could interbreed, even if dense jungles made travel difficult. Hence, from whence did this vast gulf of genetic diversity arise? But I cannot imagine how Scandinavians could ever have managed to interbreed with Australians. Please explain how a 6 foot blonde Swede could be similar to a 4 foot dark aborigine. >You might as well divide people up by blood group, and then there would be >four recognised human races: the A-oids, the B-oids, the O-oids and AB-oids. I postulate that then the 0 negatives and all negative ilk would be marginalized as lesser grades and enslaved. PatPat -- http://www.geocities.com/area51/1707 _____________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 01:36:38 +0100 From: "Ariana" To: "b7" , "Judith Proctor" Subject: [B7L] First impressions: "Breakdown" Message-ID: <00a301bfad85$fcfda480$84e407c3@ariana> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A bit of a mixed bag, but ultimately quite a good mixture... The thing that surprised me about this episode was that it seemed to have two parts. On the one hand, we have the "will they make it in time?" aspect of the dash to the station. Then once they reach the station, the episode seems to switch focus, suddenly changing from action/adventure into more of a psycho-political drama. I think I read somewhere that David Jackson was told this was going to be an episode about Gan. He must have been most disappointed when he saw it. It's actually an episode about Avon! But more on that later. As far as Gan's situation is concerned, it's good to know that none of the Liberator team are proficient in brain surgery. There's a limit to what they can do. In fact, this episode brings home a major deficiency in Blake's crew: they have no qualified physician of any type. Bones or Dr Bashir would have had Gan patched up in no time. The part about the anomaly wasn't bad. Zen's unexpected shut down and the subsequent panic on board was suitably gripping, particularly when Avon flips his top. That rather suggests the extreme gravity of the situation they are in. Considering it was all technobabble, it's amazing they managed to convey a sense of danger at all. But all is well in the end, as they cruise through the anomaly and out the other side. I did like Blake and Jenna's delight at having made it, btw. Then the Liberator reaches the station and the episode changes. Instead of battling against time, a recalcitrant computer and a big red swirly thing, the Liberator crew are suddenly up against some new characters with agendas of their own. Kayn and Farron become the main antagonists, and confronting them requires a bit more subtlety than the anomaly did. Vila unexpectedly gets to play the heavy, though he gets plenty of help from Avon and Blake, who are perhaps more convincing in the role. Avon's attempt at jumping ship was also an interesting twist. The ending was very, very nice. By this, I naturally mean the real end of the episode, not the S1999 Y2-type pointless tag scene. Kayn killing Farron and then the whole station being destroyed by a stray bolt was very good IMHO. Nice to see chance still plays a part in the life of future human beings. All in all, an enjoyable episode which raises a few questions and didn't rush to answer them all. The questions being mostly a couple of character points... Character stuff: ================ The malfunction in Gan's implant is the catalyst for this episode's events, but aside from that, all he gets to do is lie around or attack people. The grunting and snarling while he was in the sickbay was truly appalling; I suppose it enforced the notion of the implant feeding random impulses to the brain, but it did nothing for me. Meanwhile, Vila suffers what appears to be a personality change in mid-episode. First he's having kittens about the space anomaly, then he sets out on a one-man guerilla mission to confront Kayn. I suppose the apparent inconsistency could be explained by one of the following: a) Vila really likes Gan and wants to make sure Kayn saves him, or: b) Vila really likes Blake and wants to spare him the trouble of confronting Kayn, or: c) Having used up all his fear during the confrontation with the big swirly thing, Vila finds a new reserve of bravery to save the day, or: d) Vila thinks Kayn and Renor won't be much of a challenge, since they're only doctors, or: e) Vila is pretending to be scared when he's scared. Well, I've already voiced my thoughts on that one. I'm sure there are other explanations, but the point is that I felt his behaviour needed an explanation. However, I did enjoy the surprise of having him turn up, gun in hand, just when he was needed. Nice scene. OTOH, I've decided that Michael Keating is a pet, so I may be biased! ;) Blake's determination to save Gan shows that he does care about individuals and not just The People in general. I also appreciated the way his patience with Avon seemed to have run out about mid-episode, particularly the remark about him not wanting to ask Avon to stay. One of his qualities as a leader is shown at the end of the episode, where he laughs with the crew at Gan's recovery. Considering that Avon chooses to glower in a corner at that point, I shudder to think how their fortunes will change when Blake is gone and Mr Charisma is in charge. Of course, it's impossible to comment on this episode without mentioning Avon. The plot about Gan aside, Avon's interest in 'defecting' is one of the key focuses of the episode. He has threatened to leave the Liberator several times in the past, but this is the first time he comes close to putting that threat into action. The stress of rerouting the computer manually evidently went to his head. Interesting how he blames Blake for not turning back, whereas Avon was the one who insisted they go through the anomaly in the first place. Although events -- Kayn's betrayal in particular -- conspired to scupper Avon's deal with Farron, it would be interesting to speculate whether Avon would have gone through with it if everything went smoothly. That would depend on whether one views the attempt as a sincere desire for a new life, or some posturing to prove a point to Blake. My personal theory is that Avon is a bit of a Prima Donna. Either way, he clearly does care enough about his colleagues to reject Farron's compromise proposal if it means abandoning the Liberator crew to their deaths. So much for his professed determination to be a loner. On the guest character front, both Kayn and Renor need a good smack in the chops. The latter for his "hello, hello" comments to the Liberator's women, and the former for being an all around bad guy. At least Renor turned out to be human, displaying compassion with Gan's plight. Kayn was just as cold and calculating as a machine. A chillingly effective baddie. I did quite like Farron, though. Not a nice person by any means, but his politician's view of any situation made him interesting. I particularly appreciated the way he rapidly came up with a contingency plan to keep Avon when he learned that the Feds were on their way. He's evidently one to seize any opportunity on offer; pity for his sake that he didn't realise Avon's true attachment to his Liberator colleagues. He possibly could have got himself a deal if he hadn't been so flippant about the Liberator's destruction. Aside from that, Cally gets to ask Blake why he's so angry with Avon, and Jenna has an argument with Avon. Also, I'm glad to see no objection to women drivers in B7; in fact, piloting seems to be women's work on the Liberator, as both Cally and Jenna get their turn to pilot the ship. Gan's coma aside, the episode was more of an ensemble piece than previous ones seemed to be. Even Zen gets a character moment by unexpectedly switching off because it believes the Liberator is going to be destroyed. Subtext: Nothing that sprang out at me this week, unless *any* kind of tif between Blake and Avon counts as subtext! Nitpicks and Preposterous Props: ================================ That star chart was an interesting "print out". I wonder if Zen is full of little pixies who painstakingly stuck all the little circles onto the Plexiglas. As for the spacial anomaly, did anyone else cry out, "Look! It's a big red swirly thing in space". Or are my boyfriend and I the only Red Dwarf fans here? I thought it a bit strange that they let Kayn and Renor into the sickbay and then left them to it on their own, until Vila decided to wander in with a weapon. For hunted rebels, they're awfully trusting of complete strangers they need desperate help from. Dialogue Gems: ============== BLAKE: Well, the tranquilizer pad should keep him quiet for a while. CALLY: Two of them would flatten any one of us for about a hundred hours. AVON: If he comes round, he'll flatten all of us for a good deal longer than that. ====== BLAKE: Suppose Zen gave us the necessary information and detailed instructions. AVON: Oh, come on, Blake! This is not something you do by numbers, not even highly sophisticated ones. This is an area that has remained the exclusive province of specialists. BLAKE: Yes, I know, I know. AVON: There are quicker ways that you could kill him, but there are none more certain. ====== VILA: Funny, we're all standing here hoping there's something wrong with him. Something ordinary, a nice straightforward disease. ====== BLAKE: Any others with the necessary level of technology? JENNA: Only Epinal. But the problem there is that they're considered potentially hostile. BLAKE: To the Federation? JENNA: To the species. They don't like humanoids in general, and in particular homo sapiens. AVON: That puts their intelligence beyond doubt. [[This amused me on more than one count, as Epinal is actually a suburb of Paris!]] ====== BLAKE: If the direct route to XK seventy two is fifty hours shorter than our nearest alternative then that can be the difference between life and death for Gan. VILA: And for us. JENNA: Realistically, it's his only chance. AVON: I agree with Jenna. VILA: You do? AVON: I have never taken things on trust. I see no reason to make an exception in the case of a mysterious warning of danger. JENNA: Neither do I. BLAKE: Right, let's get to it. VILA: Don't I get asked? ====== JENNA: Maybe Zen's got it wrong. AVON: Zen hasn't got it at all. JENNA: All right then, whoever programmed him. AVON: One of these days I intend to find out who that is. VILA: If you live that long. ====== CALLY: (V.O.) No change. Blake, what is the flight time across the zone? BLAKE: Avon? AVON: Thirty hours. BLAKE: Thirty hours. VILA: That gives it plenty of time to leap out on us then. JENNA: Must you keep on about it, Vila? VILA: Sorry. Just nervous. BLAKE: We're all nervous. VILA: I thought it was only me. ====== BLAKE: Hmm. Well, presumably Zen will come back to us when we're out of danger. VILA: Sounds like a good idea. Any chance of joining him? ====== VILA: I've just had a comforting thought. We may all be dead before we find out why this is a danger zone. ====== BLAKE: (V.O.)Have you done it, Avon? AVON: Soon. BLAKE: (V.O.)How soon? AVON: I can talk or I can work, but I can't do both. ====== AVON: Blake, in the unlikely event that we survive this -- BLAKE: Yes? AVON: I'm finished. Staying with you requires a degree of stupidity of which I no longer feel capable. BLAKE: No, you're just being modest. ====== AVON: (V.O.)We're coming in range of XK seventy two. Just had a message from the station administrator. Very polite, but it boils down to who are we and what do we want. BLAKE: Tell him we're an experimental ship out of Earth on a proving flight. Then tell him what we'll need. AVON: (V.O.)You think he'll believe that? BLAKE: Convince him. Use your charm. CALLY: Why are you angry with Avon? BLAKE: I'm not. CALLY: You sound as if you are. BLAKE: He has a decision to make. If he wants to stay with us, it's got to be for his reasons. CALLY: You'll do nothing to persuade him? BLAKE: Nothing at all. ====== BLAKE: Where were you when we needed you? (to Avon) What did they say? AVON: They've invited the commander to go across. I've got a voice fix ... "Commander." ====== AVON: Why do you stay with Blake? VILA: I like him. AVON: That isn't a good enough reason. VILA: It is for me. That and the fact I've got nowhere else to go. AVON: (smiles) All right. Put me across. ====== KAYN: Just a minute. This is interesting. What rank do you hold? BLAKE: I'm a civilian. KAYN: Unusual. BLAKE: We tend to be in the majority, even in the Federation. ====== JENNA: Hello. RENOR: Hello, hello, hello! VILA: Ah. Jenna, this is Professor Kayn's assistant, his name is - RENOR: Renor. And I had a feeling this was going to be a good day. JENNA: Yes, well, don't let your feelings run away with you. RENOR: Oh, a sense of humour, too. I love girls with a sense of humour. JENNA: Yes, I can see where that would be an advantage. ====== RENOR: I'm going to operate myself. KAYN: You'll kill him. RENOR: Well, at least I'll have tried! You call yourself a doctor? (Vila enters, handgun pointed at the doctors) VILA: No, he calls himself a genius. KAYN: Ah. VILA: All right, genius, time's up. KAYN: I wondered how long it would take you. VILA: Well, you can stop wondering and start operating. KAYN: Why didn't Blake come himself? VILA: Blake doesn't know anything about it. I thought it was better that way. He's got a conscience. He might not be prepared to kill you. KAYN: And you are? VILA: Yes. AVON: If he isn't, I am. [[Vila and Avon team up as Blake's minders]] ====== BLAKE: How soon can you complete? KAYN: Thirty-five minutes. BLAKE: Do it in twenty. KAYN: Or you'll kill me. BLAKE: Oh, no, no, no. In twenty-five minutes I'm returning you to your station. If you haven't completed your work -- KAYN: Your threats don't bother me in the least, you know. BLAKE: -- I shall destroy your hands. [[Blake demonstrates that he doesn't need two minders: he can intimidate with the best of them]] ====== AVON: Say goodbye to one bolt hole. BLAKE: That's not funny, Avon. AVON: It wasn't meant to be. ====== BLAKE: How do you feel? GAN: I feel as if someone has been poking around inside my head-- with a foot. VILA: We had to kick your brain a couple of times to get it started. GAN: Only twice? They didn't remove the limiter. CALLY: It was not possible. VILA: They've modified it, though. Your ears glow in the dark now. Miscellaneous: ============== Sorry for the delay in getting this out; I've been using this long weekend to finish other miscellaneous bits and pieces which don't get done during ordinary weekends. Amongst other things, I've finally HTMLised all my previous comments and bundled them onto a custom-built Web site at http://www.alpha.ndirect.co.uk/blakes7 (this one not included yet). As a reminder, they are also archived on Judith Proctor's site at http://www.hermit.org/Blakes7 Nice to see Gareth Thomas in Randall and Hopkirk yesterday. He's grown old and, um, rather large in the last twenty years. But it was a nice spooky role and he's a damn fine actor. He should give Bob Mortimer a few lessons. I'm going to miss R&H and their silly antics, though! Comments and discussion welcome as usual! Ariana ====== "Why do you stay with Blake?" "I like him." "That isn't a good enough reason." "It is for me. That and the fact I've got nowhere else to go." -- Avon and Vila in "Breakdown" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 23:24:44 +0100 From: "Neil Faulkner" To: "b7" Subject: Re: [B7L] On Dayna and Evolution Message-ID: <000301bfad91$5b1db540$e535fea9@neilfaulkner> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ariana wrote: > That was me, and I hold by my opinion. Avon is too nasty to everyone to be > from a secure high-grade background, IMHO. Which just goes to show how perceptions differ, since I don't recall him ever being terribly nasty to anyone. Neil ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 14:49:56 +1000 From: Kathryn Andersen To: JMDG James Morrison Discussion Group List , "Blake's 7 list" Subject: [B7L] Enarrare' page Message-ID: <20000424144956.D1329@welkin.apana.org.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have just updated the Enarrare' page - now there are pictures of all the covers from 9-15, not just the cover of #10. So if you want to see the beautiful colour zine covers, then trip over to http://home.connexus.net.au/~kat/enarrare Kathryn Andersen (NOT the editor) -- _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen / \ | http://home.connexus.net.au/~kat \_.--.*/ | #include "standard/disclaimer.h" v | ------------| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere Maranatha! | -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe -------------------------------- End of blakes7-d Digest V00 Issue #117 **************************************